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Post by jd on Dec 18, 2011 20:35:54 GMT -4
Could i have a link to where i behaved badly please? Sure: hpanwoforum.freeforums.orgOh, you mean here? Here you've been more or less well behaved, and that is why you're still free to post. But I know that at Hagbard's forum you are as guilty of using insults as anyone else there. So my warning was just that... a warning that you can't behave that way here. My concern is that you are so comfortable using offensive insults from your time at Hagbard's forum that you will do it here without even being aware of it... like some kind of internet tourret's syndrome. If someone came into my house and acted the way people do at Hagbard's forum I'd throw them out the front door. The ban button is my way of doing that here. There is no law that says I have to allow rude people to behave however they want in my forum. If they want that freedom they can start their own forum. Thank you for your responce. On this forum i do see a lot of intellectual snobbery and after being attacked and seeing others attacked i felt a need to point that out. I was quite shocked how cheeb was spoken to by some members and alarmed by the paranoia aimed at myself. It dosent look good from the outside of the click club. Yes i have been a bad boy on Hagbards forum but you took no exception to me being on your side at the time you were there. Hagbard does not throw straight dice and i would like to say that many of my posts are edited to say things i never said. However i hold my hands up and admit ive given out some tongue whippings but when you are being accused of watching, making and distributing things like child porn, animal porn and scat porn along with being a racist terrorist etc then a tounge lashing is quite mild to what i would do if ever i got my hands on them.
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Post by jd on Dec 17, 2011 7:19:40 GMT -4
To JD and damnsod: I'm going to warn you both because you're both making the same mistake. You seem to believe you can behave in this forum the same way that you can in Hagbard's no holds barred free-for-all of a forum. In Hagbard's forum people (on both sides of the hoax debate) insult each other almost as easily as breathing, and there are no consequences. And their insults are not just the "your spelling sucks!" variety, so there is no comparison to how you've been treated here. I suspect that neither of you are even interested in the subject of Apollo, you just like to use it as an excuse to insult each other. We're not here to play games with you. If you really want to discuss Apollo that's fine, but we're not here to see who can come up with the best insult. I will not allow that kind of behaviour here. We are genuinely interested in Apollo, and we're willing to discuss the hoax theory if it can be done with civility. So that means there are really only three options: 1) you can behave like mature adults and continue to participate in this forum for as long as you would like. 2) you can leave and return to Hagbard's forum. Or... 3) you can continue to act like immature little idiots and get yourself banned. JD, I'm sorry some people mistook you for a HB, but you should understand that one of the most common HB tactics is to come here and say "I'm not a hoax believer but...". *I* know you have a history of arguing against the hoax theory, but most people aren't even aware that Hagbard's forum exists. At Hagbard's forum you're enemy #1, here you're nobody. And I don't mean that in an insulting way, just that you don't have a history here. Damnsod (aka. Cheeb), I was reluctant to even approve your membership here based on your name alone. Mature people don't choose names like "Damnsod" and it says a lot about what your intentions really are. You want a fight, not answers to questions about Apollo. Mature adults also don't waste their time making their writing look like it was written by a 5 year old with crayons. Intelligent people wow people with their words, not the colour of their fonts or the number of emoticons they use. Grow up. Could i have a link to where i behaved badly please?
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Post by jd on Dec 16, 2011 17:53:21 GMT -4
To be honnest im quite upset at the way ive been accused and treated over this and i dont think the way Cheeb has been spoken to by some has done the pro Apollo team any good at all. I see this forum in a different light at the moment. That's Almost A Compliment Coming From You...
To Be Fair, All I Have Done Is Ask Questions...
If I Have Gotten Answers That Point Out Where I Was Wrong...
I Hold My Hands Up And Say Fair Enough...
What About This Then...
And Then Don't Go Back To It...
For Example C-Rocks, Kapton Tape, Using Lead To Screen Radiation, And On Here My Error In The Time Delay Not Applying To Nixons Answers...
Sometimes Nobody Expects The Spelling Nazis...!!! I am quite ashamed at the way you have been treated so far Cheeb even though we dont get on. I dont see this thread as a positive for the pro Apollo team in many ways. Im also quite upset at being accused of this and that and so forth. It seems there are paranoid people on both sides. Truly i am ashamed at the moment of how i have bigged this forum up to HB's. However i have seen this on here before.
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Post by jd on Dec 16, 2011 17:35:05 GMT -4
To be honnest im quite upset at the way ive been accused and treated over this and i dont think the way Cheeb has been spoken to by some has done the pro Apollo team any good at all.
I see this forum in a different light at the moment.
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Post by jd on Dec 16, 2011 17:31:26 GMT -4
Let me count the ways: 1. "I'm just speaking for a friend." Sure, it seems to be true in this case. Other people have had no problem in the past simply going "Hey, there's a live one over at David Ickes today." It is pointless work; unless the person making the claims is actually watching the debate, they won't learn anything. The people the person has been making the claims TO won't learn anything in any case, because THEY aren't here. So who benefits? The sole benefit I can see is if the claim was so powerful it really needed to be heard; that it had the potential to overturn our current understanding. i certainly don't see that as the case here. 2. Bad formatting. Okay, again, not jd's fault. But since the original claimant is not here, and his work is being synopsized in any case, why not do a better job of it? 3. Bad timing. There's been a small run on really, really annoying Apollo Deniers recently. Oddly, however, they have mostly been somewhat educated, and willing and able to at least try to state their claims in detail. This "shy one" is a blast from the past -- bad arguments arising from poor understanding presented in annoying fashion. There is no meat there -- which Doctor Socks and other recent participants at least offer. He sure is no friend of mine. Its a simple case of me saying to someone why not post your stuff over here and as the person didnt want to i asked if it would be ok if i did. I had this idea that some people here were better equipted to show where he was going wrong than i was. As it turns out ive benn made to look like the devil for nothing. I had not bothered now.
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Post by jd on Dec 16, 2011 17:19:26 GMT -4
No, but you have come (at least as a proxy) to try to persuade people about a matter of great scientific and historical significance. That means you should present yourself as an intelligent adult. If you are not, you have no business trying to make a case that other adults have broken laws, or lied to the public. Those are pretty big charges, and if you don't look like you're making them seriously, don't expect other people to take you seriously. Rubbish. Im as far from a HB as you can get. The Admin has even vouched for me in this thread. You have been reading the thread havent you? I have not tried to change anyones mind on anything. I simply posted a couple of HB posts from another forum. I do expect an apology for what you have said about me which is totaly untrue.
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Post by jd on Dec 16, 2011 17:08:01 GMT -4
I would like to apologize to jd for accusing them of using overly enlarged text. But next time, please be more careful with your formatting, your attempt at using the quote function failed. The formatting here is a bit different than on some forums. Also, even if it wasn't your words, but this cheeb person, you still could have shrunk them down to a more legible size as a courtesy. But damnsod, wow, just wow. Turquoise on light grey? Do you want people to read your words or not? This obviously is an intentional choice, the default is black, so why do it? It is quite hard to read, downright impossible in fact, without highlighting your text. Is there a reason you are been so intentionally perverse? I tried my best to change the format of the first post i quoted as for the second i just didnt have time. I wonder why people are so snappy round here. Im mean come on its not the end of the world. Just to ask what do you mean by them? As in ' for accusing them of using overly enlarged text'.
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Post by jd on Dec 16, 2011 17:05:01 GMT -4
In this case i dont think being polite came into it, belittleing a little yes but not polite. Not everyone is a smart interlectual, me less than most. However i feel that sometimes some people look down their noses at others and i dont think this is helpful in changing peoples minds. When and where i went to school some of the teachers acted in ways that were similar and i for one did not find that aided or helped my learning. Just my thoughts. Well, if you claim that you can correct professionals about rocket science and astrophysics, you'd better be a smart intellectual. Just as if you want to tell the lead singer at La Scala she's off key, you'd better not be tone-deaf. Or if you want to tell your doctor he's a quack, you'd best be able to spell "aspirin". We're talking about topics that require very deep knowledge, and extreme precision here. Not being able to spell technical terms (as opposed to the occasional online typo) indicates that you haven't enough familiarity with such terms to be trusted to know what they mean. Im not desputing that, its the attitude some members show that i dont like. Lets not forget im no HB and Cheeb and myself are far from seeing eye to eye but come on lagys and gentlemen not everyone is a brain box and some have been fooled into thinking they know it all and it must be a hoax. To be honest i dont think any of the points raised by cheeb most of what ive read from the HB's require a deep knowledge to put to bed. If someone wants to come here and mouth off that they know it all then rise above that and use your brains to show they are wrong.
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Post by jd on Dec 16, 2011 16:52:23 GMT -4
Right. Walk into a forum and tell people "I don't know all the fancy terms you guys use but I'm going to tell you you're going about it all wrong anyhow." Tough. If you can't handle the technical terminology, you don't have sufficient grasp of the subject yet. If i was the graphic artist i would feel better about myself if i kept my cool and tried to educate the person in such a way as they didnt think i was looking down on them or taking the wee wee, no matter how they acted.
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Post by jd on Dec 16, 2011 16:31:38 GMT -4
To be fair pointing out someone's spelling mistakes or sloggy grammar on an internet forum is thought of to be poor form. It depends on the forum. In certain fora--like this one--it is considered poor form not to use the best spelling and grammar you can. It is important to spell technical terms and people's names correctly, so they can be looked up by other people. Correcting the spelling of that for other readers is, frankly, just polite. In this case i dont think being polite came into it, belittleing a little yes but not polite. Not everyone is a smart interlectual, me less than most. However i feel that sometimes some people look down their noses at others and i dont think this is helpful in changing peoples minds. When and where i went to school some of the teachers acted in ways that were similar and i for one did not find that aided or helped my learning. Just my thoughts.
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Post by jd on Dec 16, 2011 15:56:00 GMT -4
Thank you, Professor Science. Instead of posting a worthless tabulation of what you now know to be the correct word you could have exhibited some intellectual courage and simply said you didn't know how to spell "perigee" and you were too lazy to Google it. This is a science forum. Spelling counts. Thats me buggered then. To be fair pointing out someone's spelling mistakes or sloggy grammar on an internet forum is thought of to be poor form.
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Post by jd on Dec 16, 2011 14:52:18 GMT -4
I do so hope you are not planning on doing a Hagbard Celine here Julie.
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Post by jd on Dec 16, 2011 8:34:08 GMT -4
You know, jd, enlarging text until it is annoying and hard to read doesn't make the words any truer; it just makes it, well, annoying and hard to read. You know, raven. im glad i didnt enlarge any text then. Not that i needed you to point that out in the first place but thanks for your effort in pointing out the distinctly obvious.
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Post by jd on Dec 14, 2011 20:21:03 GMT -4
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Post by jd on Dec 14, 2011 19:42:05 GMT -4
Ive been on a forum and a HB has been throwing out posts but he is a bit shy to come here. I aske if its ok to repost some of his stuff here and he says its fine. So heres some stuff to get your teeth into lol.
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