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Post by Jason on Nov 6, 2007 16:24:28 GMT -4
Ugh. You mean "Paul Verhoven's Starship Troopers" or Starship Troopers in Name Only.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Nov 6, 2007 17:20:06 GMT -4
So could Revenge of the Sith
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Post by Ginnie on Nov 6, 2007 20:12:03 GMT -4
Can anyone imagine a remake of lets say, The Godfather or Apocalypse Now or 2001:A Space Odyssey?
Most remakes don't compare to the original. It's like trying to paint Les Demoiselles d'Avignon again, only better. . Or somebody writing a new Beatle song who isn't a Beatle. I'm trying to think of one remake that was better...oh, got one : The Thing. I love the Kurt Russel version for some reason.]
RE: The Caine Mutiny.It's that darn black and white TV again. If I wasn't born when the movie originally came out, then I wouldn't have seen it in the theatres. And unless I rented in on DVD... I bet I think a lot of movies are B&W as a result of that. Anyone every see the '57 movie 12 Angry Men?
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Post by wdmundt on Nov 6, 2007 20:42:01 GMT -4
A lot of my favorite movies are black and white. Here is my list from another forum:
Twelve O'Clock High
12 Angry Men
On the Beach (horrible Australian accents, but a great end of the world movie-- and most depressing movie ever -- enjoy!)
Fail Safe (came out at about the same time as Dr. Strangelove, same topic -- and didn't get much recognition)
7 Days in May (political thriller -- smarter than The Manchurian Candidate)
The Stranger (Edward G. Robinson and Orson Welles -- post WWII thriller)
IT! The Terror from beyond Space (Alien in 1955 -- all riight, it's crappy, but fun)
The Incredible Shrinking Man (the spider is still scary)
Sink the Bismarck
To Kill a Mockingbird
And I prefer the original Thing from Another World to the 1982 The Thing -- though I do like them both. The feature film I'm finishing up pays homage to The Thing from Another World in a lot of ways. There is a link to the trailer below.
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Post by Count Zero on Nov 6, 2007 21:51:59 GMT -4
I prefer the original Thing from Another World to the 1982 The Thing
Ditto. The "remake" (which was actually closer to Campbell's original story) had its moments ("You have got to be . . . kidding me!"), but it didn't really engage me. It's probably because I prefer the Howard Hawks style of cameraderie/everyone-pulls-together movie to the distrustful/you-can't-trust-anybody ("a red under every bed") paranoiac thriller.
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Post by sts60 on Nov 6, 2007 22:21:47 GMT -4
As opposed to "Watch the skies! Watch the skies!" paranoia? Really, though, I preferred the original too. Though the remake wasn't bad. Let us not forget the wonderful Them. The greatest BEM* movie of all time. *Bug-Eyed Monster
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Post by gillianren on Nov 6, 2007 22:42:42 GMT -4
Anyone every see the '57 movie 12 Angry Men? Oh, yes. Actually, the website my "my website" thingy links to is my movie review journal, which features, among other things, my review of 12 Angry Men--for which Henry Fonda was nominated for a Best Picture Oscar. Also, within the last week, City Limits, starring Charlie Chaplin.
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Post by wdmundt on Nov 6, 2007 22:45:20 GMT -4
City Lights?
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Post by Bill Thompson on Nov 6, 2007 23:29:11 GMT -4
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Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 40 Location: Russia, Krasnoyarsk I work a man born in Russia who loves the idea that: (#1) Russians do everything better than the Americans (#2) Americans never walked on the moon. When I mention to him that if the Americans faked it, the Soviets would surely have been able to see, his mind is caught in one of those paradox like the character Bender might find himself in in the TV show, Futurama -- or one of the characters in a Chappel Show sketch who is a white supremacist who finds out his racist hero is black but blind and raised not to know he was black. The two ideas cancel each other out. But my friend is a software engineer and when we start talking about the moon rocks, he eventually admits "Alright, I don't believe they faked it, but, like Malder on The X-Files 'I want to believe' ".
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Post by LunarOrbit on Nov 6, 2007 23:46:13 GMT -4
So could Revenge of the SithI thought Revenge of the Sith was really good, actually. It's one of my favourite Star Wars movies (I would rank it third after ESB and ANH, but before ROTJ which I thought was almost ruined by the Ewoks). The other two prequels were disappointing, but I still probably like them more than most people.
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Post by gillianren on Nov 7, 2007 0:30:53 GMT -4
Yes, absolutely right. Sorry. I have the names of too many movies in my head, clearly. But yes-- City Lights, with Charlie Chaplin. Written, directed, and produced by Charlie Chaplin, come to that. Made after the coming of the sound era, and the man still never says a word.
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Post by JayUtah on Nov 7, 2007 0:49:33 GMT -4
There's a quick sequence in Battleship Potemkin in which three statues of lions, one sleeping, one waking, and one nearly rampant, are shown in rapid succession. Sheer brilliance.
At the other end of the spectrum I love the cheesy films of the 1950s and early 1960s. Most of them shouldn't be remade, because they probably shouldn't have been made in the first place. But if you watch about a dozen of them and then watch Tim Burton's Mars Attacks! you see Burton's genius. The individual examples are not as important as the overriding trends and themes. Such a great mirror in which to view that society.
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Post by JayUtah on Nov 7, 2007 0:57:57 GMT -4
My favorite Tramp film is still Modern Times. There's a great scene that foreshadows the infamous chocolate-factory scene from "I Love Lucy."
Chaplin agonized over using sound in the film. In the end he kept the film silent except for sounds and voices emanating from machines, in keeping with the theme of dehumanization. When the Tramp finally vocalizes, he sings in a language that sounds like a cross between French and Italian. Somehow you know that's how the Tramp is supposed to sound.
I think Chaplin saw the handwriting on the wall and realized that the Tramp character wouldn't survive the migration to sound. I still study Chaplin and Keaton and Harold Lloyd films when I need to play a character whose movement is important.
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Post by Count Zero on Nov 7, 2007 2:32:46 GMT -4
As opposed to "Watch the skies! Watch the skies!" paranoia? Touché! I prefer Us versusThem to everyone for themselves. Let us not forget the wonderful Them. The greatest BEM* movie of all time. Yes, speaking of Us vs. Them... ;D I got to introduce my wife to that one last year. We still joke about it when we see ants. Come to think of it, both Them! and The Thing from Another World feature James Arness, who went on to play Matt Dillon in Gunsmoke.
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Post by AtomicDog on Nov 7, 2007 9:13:28 GMT -4
My wife loves to say, "Riiiibs!" when we see the giant ant tossing the human ribcage out of the anthill in Them.
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