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Post by altair4 on Jan 21, 2008 18:18:43 GMT -4
Ha!ha!
(This will get people thinking!!!) I STILL HAVE THE BOOK WHICH I HAVE HAD OVER 20 ODD YEARS!!
The Prophecies of Nostradamus(Erika Cheetham),1973
Quatrain 9/65
"He will come to the take himself to the corner of Luna where he will be taken and and placed on foreign land.The unripe fruit will be the subject of great scandal,great blame,to the other great praise"
Below is what I think about this....what do U think??
Luna(Moon obviously)...(I know U will agree on this!!) unripe fruit/great scandal...(conspiracy,I would say) great blame....(USA,probably) great praise.....(USSR,probably)
as far as I'm concerned..we still walked on the moon!!
WELL DONE APOLLO!!!!
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Post by Jason on Jan 21, 2008 18:23:25 GMT -4
I think Nostradamus is about as accurate a predictor of the future as all those guys on the "prediction" threads that Lazarusty keeps dumping on us.
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Post by altair4 on Jan 21, 2008 19:09:17 GMT -4
I am a follower of Nostradamus..I like the one about Pasteur(a success),I can't understand the behaviour of sceptics when there are obvious success's...I can't stand debunker James Randi....closed minded!! He will never learn anything...."none so blind as those who won't see"
I have had it out with James Randi and feel sorry 4 him,I have had my own experiences with PSI(ESP)..precognition
I have had success with dice,horses,cards(WITHOUT CONSCIOUS EFFORT...comes 2 U when "NOT THINKING ABOUT IT..."small inner voice" . A bit like a phone# or the name of someone U forgot 20 yrs ago!(U might relate 2 from your experience) but its on another level...I goto Raja Yoga centre.I get into meditation.
I read a book called Superself:The Hidden Powers WIthin Us. Ian Wilson
It changed my life. I was watching the horses on TV and it came to me spontaneously "3,6,18" before the race began and I said 3,6,18 to my friend Adam ...and it was!!,another time it came to me "1,4" before the race began on TV and I said "1 and 4 " and it was!!! I had a pack of cards face down.I did nothing and it "came to me" 7 Diamonds and I ignored it,then it came 2 me again 7 Diamonds and it was!!!(without conscious effort)
I was with my friend Joe Kirifi and I picked up pair of dice, I did nothing and it came to me "3,6 " I said to Joe "3 and 6 " and it was,immediately I picked up the dice and it came to me "2,4" and I said to Joe 2 and 4...and it was!!! I immediately picked the dice up and it came to me "3,2" and I said to Joe 3 and 2...and it was!! (I AM SERIOUS!!).It is not something one has control of I don't think...either it comes 2 U or it doesn't...it happened 2 me!!
I have got in touch with Sally Rhine Feather about this at the Rhine Institute(Parapsychology) they can't really explain this sort of thing but she asked me 2 read her book called The Gift,The Extraordinary Experiences of Ordinary People. I KNOW 4 a FACT when it comes to ESP and Anomalous Cognition...James Randi and his disciples don't know much about PSI(ESP)
SO YES,I don't have a problem with Nostradamus..I have had silmilar expereriences....WITHOUT CONSCIOUS EFFORT!!(another good place 2 start is the Yoga Sutras(Patanjali)...the Sidda Powers...Latent abilities..
OBTW with the above example my friend Joe Kirifi...his sons name is on a NASA spacecraft called Stardust!!-HONU S KIRIFI,where names have been selected at random...my last name is there as well..LEEKS...my friends I have grown up with call me LEEKS(these names are on the official NASA Stardust website)
goto Google type in"HONU S KIRIFI" it comes up Microchip Names(K)...so I wonder where the probe is now,its out there somewhere collecting info!! Type in LEEKS,Stardust..comes up microchip LEEKS(L)
PAUL LEEKS(NEW ZEALAND)
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Post by laurel on Jan 21, 2008 19:26:40 GMT -4
Was that even a real Nostradamus prophecy? Because there are quite a few fake ones out there. People made up one about a village idiot coming to power in December 2000 (it was a George W. Bush joke). And people said Nostradamus predicted 9/11 and the Columbia disaster, but these passages were also made up.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 21, 2008 19:28:13 GMT -4
I am a follower of Nostradamus..I like the one about Pasteur(a success),I can't understand the behaviour of sceptics when there are obvious success's...I can't stand debunker James Randi....closed minded!! He will never learn anything...."none so blind as those who won't see" And yet I could say the exact same about you. You are concentrating only on what you perceive as a hit, and yet totally ignore all of the parts that make no sense. He will come to go into the corner of "Luna,"Personally I suspect that the "He" is associated with the "He" the previous verse. Where he will be captured and put in a strange land:"What has this got to do with Apollo in any form? The unripe fruits will be the subject of great scandal,What unripe fruit? Great blame, to one great praise.What blame was put on Apollo? All you are doing is placing your own speculations onto a vauge verse and then demanding that this must be correct, all while ignoring anything that doesn't fit your speculation. I suspect that the real reason you dislike Randi and other debunkers is really because they refuse to accept your rampant speculation as fact and demand greater evidence. Something you can't provide. Just because a blind folded man can throw 100 darts and have one hit the bullseye, doesn't mean he can see through the blindfold. none so blind as those who truely believe
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Post by Ginnie on Jan 21, 2008 19:42:51 GMT -4
"He will come to the take himself to the corner of Luna where he will be taken and and placed on foreign land.The unripe fruit will be the subject of great scandal,great blame,to the other great praise"
How does he (singular) relate in any way to all the astronauts who went to the moon? Where is the corner on the moon? Where is the foreign land that he is taken to after he goes to Luna? Who takes him? Why would an Apollo mission to the moon be related to unripe fruit? How does the U.S. blame the Apollo program? What great scandal? You mean a few HB on the internet? Only the Russians praised NASA? How does any of it make sense?
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Post by Al Johnston on Jan 21, 2008 19:51:50 GMT -4
So Nostadamus predicted Robert A Heinlein?
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Post by Ginnie on Jan 21, 2008 20:01:04 GMT -4
Okay so an HB could quote Kahil Gabran:
The people of the city feign great wisdom and knowledge (NASA pretends to know more than it really does) But their fancy remains false forever (It is not possible to go to the moon) They are but experts of imitation (They follow the Soviets, not lead) It gives them pride to calculate that a barter will bring no loss or gain (They think they can get away with hoaxing the moon landings) The idiot imagines himself a king and no power can alter his great thoughts and dreams NASA thinks itself too powerful and no one can change this) The proud fool mistakes his mirror for the sky (The apollo missions will take place on earth, not in space) And his shadow for the moon that gleams high from the heavens (the missions will be a shadow of a real moon landing )
Found at random in 'A Third Treasury of Kahil Gabran'
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Post by laurel on Jan 21, 2008 22:58:14 GMT -4
Can I play too? With profound apologies to Carl Sandburg . . . Castles on the moon, mansions, shacks and shantiesAliens really did construct buildings on the moon. They are all there on the moon and the rent not paid And the roof leaking and the taxes delinquentThe LM was too unstable to fly. The moon is a dead cinder, a ball of death, a globe of doom.NASA really did kill those unfortunate astronauts. The moon is a bringer of fool's gold and fine phantoms.NASA fooled everyone. The price of the moon runs beyond all adding machine numbers.NASA spent a lot of money to pay people off. Nobody on the moon has ever died of arithmetic and hard words.Those scientific experiments astronauts did on the moon were faked. The moon coaxes me: be at home wherever you are. We thought the astronauts were on the moon, but they were "at home" on earth the whole time. I can put a piece of the moon in my pocket for tomorrow. This is probably some cryptic message about faked moon rocks. The poem is called "Moonlight and Maggots."
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Post by Jason on Jan 21, 2008 22:59:40 GMT -4
Very cool. Now do Yellow Submarine.
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Post by Ginnie on Jan 21, 2008 23:24:13 GMT -4
In the country where I was born Lived a man who went in space And he told us of his life, On the moon by NASA's grace. So we watched it on TV Till we tired of all we'd seen And we called it all a day So it ended by seventy three We all live for a another moon landing another moon landing ,another moon landing We all live for a another moon landing another moon landing ,another moon landing And our posts are on this board Many of them are becoming lore And the band begins to play. EDIT: I just re-read the above, and it really sucks. In my defense it was done really quick.
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Post by laurel on Jan 21, 2008 23:38:43 GMT -4
No, it's good. Catchy!
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Post by gillianren on Jan 22, 2008 4:35:53 GMT -4
Any citations of Nostradamus make me think that the person who cites him has never actually bothered reading Nostradamus. As has been pointed out over and over again, those quatrains could mean anything. And the only one he clarified in his own lifetime said that King Henri II of France would live a long, healthy life; he died of a fragment of lance to the eye not long after.
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Post by Jason on Jan 22, 2008 11:44:00 GMT -4
I imagine relatively few people know enough medieval French to actually read Nostradamus.
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Post by Jason on Jan 22, 2008 16:31:32 GMT -4
Change the chorus to "We all live for another moon landing," and I think you've got it.
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