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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 8, 2006 20:57:42 GMT -4
Great,while they are likely right, you can bet all the 9/11CT's will be claiming he's being censured to "keep him from getting closer to the truth." Even with the Al Queada release this week that total beyond any reasonable doubt shows they did it.
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Post by orumdude on Sept 8, 2006 21:51:27 GMT -4
How do you know who these people were, they might have been Saudi baseball players wanting a challenge game against Al Queda.
I think anyone who believes Al Jazeera is a terrorist conduit is mentally retarded. It's in the most nasty, vicious American client state in the region, Qatar, where the Yanks co-ordinated their mass murder of Iraqi children from. The Washington correspondent worked for the Voice of America (the CIA) and most of the rest for the BBC (which owned the station previously). What a joke.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 8, 2006 22:05:27 GMT -4
How do you know that Bush and Rumsfield exist and aren't just computer constructs for your TV or Actors form the imfamous Illuminati in Black?
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Post by orumdude on Sept 8, 2006 22:12:34 GMT -4
"How do you know that Bush and Rumsfield exist and aren't just computer constructs for your TV or Actors form the imfamous Illuminati in Black"
Bush and Rumsfeld are well known American simians. Even I know who they are and I don't own a TV. I do own a black helicopter and I have three relatives who are albino illuminati goats used for their Satanic rituals
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 8, 2006 22:29:47 GMT -4
Bush and Rumsfeld are well known American simians.
And OBL is a well known figure too, including a 60 minutes interveiw he did with Robert Fisk back in the 1990's. Several others on the tape are identifiable as well including two of the hijackers. Of course there is only the FBI photos and Al Queada's previously released video which was a homage to the Martyrs of 9/11 to compare them with unless you knew them personally, but you have no more proof to Bush and Rumsfield's true identity than what you are told and see on TV.
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Post by orumdude on Sept 8, 2006 22:50:24 GMT -4
Bin Laden said he didn't do it, why would he release a video saying he did. Not that I believe one single thing coming from MI6TV (Al Jazeera) anyway but the lies aren't consistent.
How do you know who the hijackers were, the FBI doesn't know who they were (whether they used their real identities - NOT) and has admitted it hasn't one shred of proof against those that were accused. The BBC said 6 of them are still alive.
Al Jazeera is one smart propaganda trick, I assume it was a British idea following on from the Muslim Brotherhood etc. Jaques Chirac told Blair before the Iraq war that if he wanted to end global terrorism he could arrest 90% of the world's terrorists in London (on the payroll of MI6). According to the American Justice Dept the London bombing mastermind was released by them because he was working for MI6 !!
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Post by echnaton on Sept 8, 2006 23:17:12 GMT -4
I think anyone who believes Al Jazeera is a terrorist conduit is mentally retarded. It's in the most nasty, vicious American client state in the region, Qatar, where the Yanks co-ordinated their mass murder of Iraqi children from. The Washington correspondent worked for the Voice of America (the CIA) and most of the rest for the BBC (which owned the station previously). What a joke. Well, that is a text book example of guilt by association. Have any more educational examples for us?
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Post by orumdude on Sept 9, 2006 8:49:34 GMT -4
I think anyone who believes Al Jazeera is a terrorist conduit is mentally retarded. It's in the most nasty, vicious American client state in the region, Qatar, where the Yanks co-ordinated their mass murder of Iraqi children from. The Washington correspondent worked for the Voice of America (the CIA) and most of the rest for the BBC (which owned the station previously). What a joke. Well, that is a text book example of guilt by association. Have any more educational examples for us? Are you suggesting that was an intelligent comment ? I sincerely hope not. Do you think the IRA would have been allowed to use an American sattelite to broadcast into the UK ? If the IRA supporting TV station had used former BBC and CIA employees, woyld anyone have believed them ?
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Post by lenbrazil on Sept 9, 2006 10:06:55 GMT -4
Are you suggesting that was an intelligent comment ? I sincerely hope not. Can you point to any intelligent comments you have made? To do so you will have to tell us your username on another forum because you have yet to make one here Obviously not but neither was Al-Qaeda Unlike the looney tunes forums you're used to we expect people to provide evidence when making claims. As to your question it would depend on the context. The CIA thing IF true would be odd but we'd have to know the details. It's true that Al Jazeera has ex BBC (and ex-CNN) people working for them, they have lots of money and are doing their best to portray themselves as a balanced and professional news source. The vast majority ex-BBC employees working for them are locals, it not like serious journalists have a lot of employment options in that part of the globe. I also imagine in many cases its possible Al-Qaeda’s editorial policy is a better match for their political outlook than their former employers. In any case Al-Jazeera isn't really pro Al-Qaeda despite the efforts to portray them as such. Although they are hardly pro US either.http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/22/1434210
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Post by orumdude on Sept 9, 2006 10:53:39 GMT -4
Are you suggesting that was an intelligent comment ? I sincerely hope not. Can you point to any intelligent comments you have made? To do so you will have to tell us your username on another forum because you have yet to make one here Obviously not but neither was Al-Qaeda Unlike the looney tunes forums you're used to we expect people to provide evidence when making claims. As to your question it would depend on the context. The CIA thing IF true would be odd but we'd have to know the details. It's true that Al Jazeera has ex BBC (and ex-CNN) people working for them, they have lots of money and are doing their best to portray themselves as a balanced and professional news source. The vast majority ex-BBC employees working for them are locals, it not like serious journalists have a lot of employment options in that part of the globe. I also imagine in many cases its possible Al-Qaeda’s editorial policy is a better match for their political outlook than their former employers. In any case Al-Jazeera isn't really pro Al-Qaeda despite the efforts to portray them as such. Although they are hardly pro US either.http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/22/1434210 Looky here dude, all my comments are intelligent..What loony tunes forums do you mean, are you trying to tell me there are intelligent people on this one, maybe they'll be along in a few days. People believe Al Jazeera is a conduit for Al Queda and is roughly pro Islamic, I don't, it's pathetic nonsense. People believe the American head honcho guys hate Al Jazeera reporters and tried to bomb them. I don't believe that either. They did try to kill them but any peasant can be replaced with a cheaper one and it was designed to convince the punters that Al Jazeera was opposition to the Great Satan, it isn't. The Americans ran the Iraq war from a building down the road from Al Jazeera . The Emir of Qatar (the owner of Al Jazera) is virulently pro American and to the right of Attilla the GI. Here is the article about the CIA dude here "Hafez Al Mirazi, a former reporter for the BBC and the Voice of America, is Al Jazeera's Washington bureau chief" ttp://www.villagevoice.com/news/0419,fahim,53386,1.html
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Post by 911: Inside Job on Sept 11, 2006 21:50:32 GMT -4
Do you think the IRA would have been allowed to use an American satellite to broadcast into the UK ? If the IRA supporting TV station had used former BBC and CIA employees, would anyone have believed them ? Good point. Why does the US allow Al Jazeera continued use of a US satellite, if it isn't for propaganda purposes? And we're supposed to believe OBL is just too crafty for our pathetic intelligence network and spy satellites to catch. yeah, right. We must never tolerate those outrageous conspiracy theories, unless, of course, they're government approved.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Sept 11, 2006 22:03:27 GMT -4
Why does the US allow Al Jazeera continued use of a US satellite
Why do they let any non-US media company use one?
And we're supposed to believe OBL is just too crafty for our pathetic intelligence network and spy satellites to catch.
You obviously have far more respect for the US Intel service than I do, I doubt they could catch a cold. Or are you suggesting that OBL is just a thick Arab and so isn't intelliegent enough to evade a bunch of bubbling and incompetent but obviously racially superior white USers?
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Post by lenbrazil on Sept 12, 2006 8:17:04 GMT -4
And we're supposed to believe OBL is just too crafty for our pathetic intelligence network and spy satellites to catch.You obviously have far more respect for the US Intel service than I do, I doubt they could catch a cold. Or are you suggesting that OBL is just a thick Arab and so isn't intelliegent enough to evade a bunch of bubbling and incompetent but obviously racially superior white USers? Indeed there seems to be inherent racism behind the objections of many of the “inside jobbers”, they find it hard to believe that “a bunch of Arabs living in a cave” could have pulled of such a feet against the US as if it’s obvious Arabs aren’t any where as smart or capable as (the overwhelmingly white) Americans who are responsible for that countries defense and security. They ignore of course the fact that few (if any) of these guys grew up in caves and most had college educations, bin Laden has a degree in engineering, his number two is (was?) an Egyptian MD. Reflective of this racism one of the lead CTists Christopher Bollyn from the neo-Nazi tied ‘American Free Press’ “objected to the use of an Iranian engineer to examine the collapse of the Trade Center's towers. "Don't they have any American engineers?" ” www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=32
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Post by sts60 on Sept 12, 2006 10:45:24 GMT -4
Good point. Why does the US allow Al Jazeera continued use of a US satellite, if it isn't for propaganda purposes?
Because (a) the U.S. government doesn't own television broadcast satellites - companies do, (b) al-Jazeera leases a transponder just like any other news organization, and (c) the U.S. government has not labeled al-Jazeera as a terrorist organization; in fact, Administration officials have given interviews to them before; and (d) not that many Americans, rightly or wrongly, give a rat's a** about al-Jazeera.
And we're supposed to believe OBL is just too crafty for our pathetic intelligence network and spy satellites to catch. yeah, right.
U.S. intel has been far too dependent on SIGINT (signal intelligence) and other high-tech methods for a long time, and our "human intelligence" - people who actually live in a place and understand the culture - has been given short shrift for a long time. A satellite is useless for picking an individual out of a similarly-dressed crowd in a village in Pakistan, and our resources are spread thin with the mess in Iraq. Hint: Enemy of the State was a movie and watching it doesn't give you any insight into how real intelligence-gathering works.
We must never tolerate those outrageous conspiracy theories, unless, of course, they're government approved.
Which, of course, is why all those people selling books and videos about how the gubmint did it have been ruthlessly suppressed by CIA-NSA-NASA hit squads. Of course.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Sept 21, 2006 11:34:33 GMT -4
Look at this. This discussion thread has gotten 6 thousand hits. What does this mean?
Does it mean that people enjoy this kind of thing or does it mean that people hate this kind of thing.
Maybe this is the motivation behind the CT's. I mean, it is simular to the appeal of Howard Stern, it does not matter if you like it or hate it, you are interested in it. This is how these snake oil salesmen hock their wares.
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