Post by turbonium on May 21, 2008 23:05:51 GMT -4
As I said, the oldest posts will be addressed first....
What evidence do you have that someone moved the camera back from the window? Is it not possible that one, two or even all three of the astronauts may have had a hand in moving it, perhaps from one to another? It is obvious to me that the moving is done quite quickly between 53:02 and 53:10 because the earth disappears and reappears a few times and is mostly off-screen for that time, which shows that the camera was not trained on earth all the time and may have indeed been turned away from it while being moved to the far seat. Yet you claim the cameraman maintained a steady view of the earth with absolutely no change, when he certainly did not and we can all see this with our own eyes.
What are you talking about? Are we viewing the same piece of film, on the Spacecraft Films Apollo 11 DVD No. 1?
After the camera is moved we then see a fairly smooth zooming-out from the earth and the CM's interior coming into view. Remember that the camera is not being moved back at this time with the zoom untouched because if it was, the earth wouldn't change size at all.
And WHY would this even be done? It makes no sense to take such a risk - blindly float backwards, completely across the inside of a pitch black CM, while still aiming the camera at the window.
Who says anyone was taking a risk? Who says that anyone floated blindly backwards? Who says the CM interior was pitch black? Just because it looks black on film to you doesn't mean it was, as already pointed out to you by someone who works with TV cameras. Just because you might be ignorant of exposure it doesn't mean that we all are.
The Earth image will only be worse in quality filming it through a window some 8 or 10 feet away!
But they weren't moving it back to film the earth, they were moving it back to film the interior of the CM! Surely, you know that, don't you? It's perfectly clear. IMO Buzz or whoever held the camera after it was moved back then found that he could still film the earth from that position and merely did so before filming the interior. Remember, the earth disappeared from view while the camera was moved back between 53:02 and 53:10.
I'd like to start with this comment from Kiwi's post...
"IMO Buzz or whoever held the camera after it was moved back then found that he could still film the earth from that position and merely did so before filming the interior."
This is nonsense.
They're (supposedly) ~130,000 miles from Earth, and can see (and film) the entire Earth, through the 9" diameter hatch window, from a position several feet away?
The Apollo 11 timeline states...
12:17 p.m.- Midcourse correction is made with a three-second burn, sharpening the course of the spacecraft and testing the engine that must get them in and out of lunar orbit.
7:31 p.m.- Astronauts begin first scheduled color telecast from spacecraft, showing view of the Earth from a distance of about 128,000 nautical miles.
At this time, the astronauts would not have had a view of the Earth through the hatch window, which was in the CSM's nose cone!
turbonium said:
I cannot see how someone could have then moved the camera several feet back from the window in this situation. The cameraman is somehow able to keep filming a steady view of the Earth, while floating weightlessly, directly backwards in a pitch black capsule, packed with two other people, and various pieces of equipment everywhere. With absolutely no change to the Earth's image...What evidence do you have that someone moved the camera back from the window? Is it not possible that one, two or even all three of the astronauts may have had a hand in moving it, perhaps from one to another? It is obvious to me that the moving is done quite quickly between 53:02 and 53:10 because the earth disappears and reappears a few times and is mostly off-screen for that time, which shows that the camera was not trained on earth all the time and may have indeed been turned away from it while being moved to the far seat. Yet you claim the cameraman maintained a steady view of the earth with absolutely no change, when he certainly did not and we can all see this with our own eyes.
What are you talking about? Are we viewing the same piece of film, on the Spacecraft Films Apollo 11 DVD No. 1?
After the camera is moved we then see a fairly smooth zooming-out from the earth and the CM's interior coming into view. Remember that the camera is not being moved back at this time with the zoom untouched because if it was, the earth wouldn't change size at all.
And WHY would this even be done? It makes no sense to take such a risk - blindly float backwards, completely across the inside of a pitch black CM, while still aiming the camera at the window.
Who says anyone was taking a risk? Who says that anyone floated blindly backwards? Who says the CM interior was pitch black? Just because it looks black on film to you doesn't mean it was, as already pointed out to you by someone who works with TV cameras. Just because you might be ignorant of exposure it doesn't mean that we all are.
The Earth image will only be worse in quality filming it through a window some 8 or 10 feet away!
But they weren't moving it back to film the earth, they were moving it back to film the interior of the CM! Surely, you know that, don't you? It's perfectly clear. IMO Buzz or whoever held the camera after it was moved back then found that he could still film the earth from that position and merely did so before filming the interior. Remember, the earth disappeared from view while the camera was moved back between 53:02 and 53:10.
I'd like to start with this comment from Kiwi's post...
"IMO Buzz or whoever held the camera after it was moved back then found that he could still film the earth from that position and merely did so before filming the interior."
This is nonsense.
They're (supposedly) ~130,000 miles from Earth, and can see (and film) the entire Earth, through the 9" diameter hatch window, from a position several feet away?
The Apollo 11 timeline states...
12:17 p.m.- Midcourse correction is made with a three-second burn, sharpening the course of the spacecraft and testing the engine that must get them in and out of lunar orbit.
7:31 p.m.- Astronauts begin first scheduled color telecast from spacecraft, showing view of the Earth from a distance of about 128,000 nautical miles.
At this time, the astronauts would not have had a view of the Earth through the hatch window, which was in the CSM's nose cone!
