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Post by ineluki on Sept 10, 2010 8:30:55 GMT -4
Look @ the section headings in the History section What exactly would you like to tell us here? Especially with regard to the White/Fetzer Challenge...
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Post by ineluki on Sept 9, 2010 9:50:35 GMT -4
A forum that calls itself the "Education Forum" is doing itself a disservice by allowing this kind of debacle to continue FWIW Evan defendend John Simkin on page 5 of this thread. However I tend to agree with your opinion, both only serve as a example how not to conduct a debate. This may be a reason why (only a rough estimation) 95% of the activity on the EF appears in the JFK or the "political conspiracies" Forums. BTW everyone...mark your Calenders, it will be another Baktun before it happens again... JW: "I obviously was wrong"
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Post by ineluki on Sept 8, 2010 11:17:17 GMT -4
About as sure as the moonlanding was real :-)
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Post by ineluki on Sept 8, 2010 7:42:09 GMT -4
Seems that Jack remains happy to post photos that he has no idea about...... Why wouldn't he? I think he is content to find some followers on the EF, and no matter how stupid his lies are, he is allowed to post them and there are *beep* who believe them. Reality no longer matters to him (and Fetzer).
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Post by ineluki on Sept 2, 2010 5:28:24 GMT -4
Because he's not a spacecraft engineer. He simply applies his earth-based intuition, as if it meant something, to a machine designed to operate in a totally alien environment. In other words, he's clueless. 1. I'm not a spacecraft engineer either 2. My Earth-based-Intuition tells me that if you must fake a spaceship that has to fool the whole world, you would build something that looks like it can do it, and not just fool around in a backyard. 3. He's not just clueless, I think it is hard work to come up with something that stupid. It's almost like he is trying to provoke someone from NASA to come out and say "we weren't that stupid when we faked it" :-) P.S. for Fetzer: Shouldn't the guys who constructed the LM be rocket scientists?
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Post by ineluki on Sept 2, 2010 3:52:16 GMT -4
Funny, I was more thinking shoe size. Well, I'm german, our shoe size would give higher numbers than temperature in Celsius...
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Post by ineluki on Sept 2, 2010 3:43:31 GMT -4
That's easy, they would have to do one of those great jumps that are possible with the moon's gravity, and if they don't it's another proof for the fake :-)
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Post by ineluki on Sept 1, 2010 16:55:35 GMT -4
Why do HB's like Jack White keep harping on about the appearance of the LM as some sort of proof it was a hoax? The words "IQ" and "room temperature" come to mind...
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Post by ineluki on Sept 1, 2010 16:52:10 GMT -4
Looks like they are underway at last. And we have already the first fetzerian Gem: "Evan suggests that, if they were faking these photos, then why not roll a rover into position and create rover tracks? To which I reply, these guys were not rocket scientists and they made mistakes"
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Post by ineluki on Aug 30, 2010 11:09:34 GMT -4
Newsticker #1: Jack can't find his great photos and it's Evan's fault.
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Post by ineluki on Aug 30, 2010 9:03:10 GMT -4
blackstarNo surprise from Mr Fetzer then... Seriously, even if I knew nothing about the issue, I couldn't help wondering why JF can't just explain his position, instead of whining around. @evan I think you are reading here so if Jim requires "I therefore request that Evan be required to acknowledge the source of his posts, so that I and others can verify them." he himself should be held to the same standard, have him back up his claims, he should not have you jump through any "We Hoaxers say so"-Hoops. Also have him commit himself to a point. It is just stupid for him to start a topic like "von Braun was a Nazi" in educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=16393&view=findpost&p=203666 and then to ignore it because he isn't ready to defend it. Either he wants to make a point or not.
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Post by ineluki on Aug 24, 2010 9:21:44 GMT -4
The really odd thing about many HBers is that they're prepared to accept that NASA had a robotic lunar capability by the late 1960s. I think it is not really a matter of accepting it. IMHO most HBs don't think about the requirements for their claims and they also don't think about any consequences. And if they do, they just expand the conspiracy until everything that doesn't fit their worldview is part of the coverup.
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Post by ineluki on Aug 23, 2010 6:21:24 GMT -4
So I think the only cure will be if people are able to see the sites with their own two eyes. Anyone else agree? That's really funny, given your own "skepticism" with regards to the rocks, do you really think Hoaxers wouldn't come up with another round of stupid claims to "explain" what they see? The Descent Stage of the LM was probably put there by the same robotic spaceships that collected the rocks
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Post by ineluki on Aug 19, 2010 9:27:01 GMT -4
But wasn't it Jack who in multiple instances outright refused to discuss his own material? Pot, meet kettle. And this happens on a Forum which claims to be for "teachers and educators" and people still take those Jack and Jim serious, and see nothing wrong with their method of "debate".
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Post by ineluki on Aug 17, 2010 9:23:40 GMT -4
Oh great, Fetzer's entry to the "debate" is to post pretty much the same list of long debunked videos for the fifth time.
Seriously even if I knew nothing about the subject I would wonder why he can't explain anything himself.
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