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Post by frenat on Feb 22, 2012 20:06:37 GMT -4
frenat, what name did you use on that site? Jay, I am not going back to the site. But I was interested as this guy seemed to have actually put some effort into the drawings and calulations unless he got them from someone else. I had never seen this kind of effort outside of YouTube. Ranb It was frenat. Same as I use everywhere. I only used the account to track the nonsense posts there anyway. Update: I was contacted (by PM) by Rerevisionist, the moderator of that forum, and he said he reactivated my account. They periodically make accounts inactive if they haven't posted. I mentioned that I may not post, that I mainly used the account to track new posts. His next PM revealed he didn't even know what that meant and that even unregistered users could read all posts. I explained that only if you were registered with an active account could you get emails informing you of new posts. His response? A Pm that I can't read as my account is now inactive again. How open-minded! thread continued on the new board here www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=40.0
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Post by frenat on Feb 22, 2012 13:41:18 GMT -4
I was going to work on this, but I was banned from the forum. That sure seems to happen a lot on hoaxer forums, doesn't it? I hardly posted there. I'm not sure if I even posted at all. I got a new computer and went to log in and it looks like I've been banned too. I just get a "this account is inactive" error. How open-minded that are!
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Post by frenat on Feb 7, 2012 9:26:14 GMT -4
That they acted on an abuse claim without any investigation or even checking with the accused party is simply outrageous. You pay money to these people? youtube often (not always) does the same thing.
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Post by frenat on Feb 7, 2012 9:22:50 GMT -4
I got a response from Proboards Support today. Apparently Playdor requested that they remove his posts. I consider this yet another reason create a new forum hosted elsewhere. What a coward. Can't be bothered to make an intelligent argument here and then can't stand to let his ignorance stay visible. What's more is he'll probably try to come back as a sock-puppet. I have never liked the fact that some idiot troll could file a false "abuse" claim with Proboards and basically get this forum shut down. And now that I know that they don't seem to investigate such claims or even ask for my side of the story before acting I hate it even more. The ONLY reason I didn't move the forum to another service years ago is because I wouldn't be able to transfer the posts or user database. I don't like asking you all to re-register and start fresh. But... grrr... things like this make me reconsider it. If we're taking a vote, I say let's move out. Yes, I could (and would) do that. I'm just worried that Proboards will delete it if it become inactive for a certain length of time. But I think the time is coming where moving just makes more sense than staying. If the posts can't be easily copied to somewhere else, and you don't want the posts deleted if the board becomes inactive, could a script be written to write occasional posts to the board while we use a different place?
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Post by frenat on Jan 24, 2012 10:58:23 GMT -4
Then I think you're either another sock or you have seriuos problems with reading threads before you respond to them. That post you responded to was over fifty pages ago.... I did read the whole thread. Not only is the guy a genius, he writes better than the rest of you. Really? Since when did habitual lying become all that is reuired to write well. On here and other boards he's claimed multiple occupations and locations and been caught lying about pretty much all of them. He is NOT a doctor. Near as anyone can tell he has no qualifications whatsoever. Of course you should know that already as it seems likely you're just asock puppet of his.
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Post by frenat on Jan 9, 2012 14:03:55 GMT -4
I noticed those similarities as well but at least Patrick can spell and punctuate. He only comes off as mildly retarded. Dastardly appears to have serious mental issues. Neither seem to be able to stick to a topic or answer directly questions. I sure that's a ploy. Patrick got suspended for a day at JREF, and immediately the dastardly account went active on BAUT after a month of nothing. Once the suspension expired, Patrick became active and dastardly vanished. Into the ether, no doubt. ;D Dastardly shares the same arguments, posts titles to his responses in exactly the same way as patrick, and declines to respond to questions. That's an MO. I just went to JREF and read the last few pages of Patrick's thread. For some reason I don't get regular emails when it updates. Definitely the same person. I thought it was a ploy as well but wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. How sad is your life when you spend so much time pretending to be more retarded on the internet?
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Post by frenat on Jan 8, 2012 23:55:40 GMT -4
It is interesting to note that the poster "dastardly" on BAUT forum now is using Fattydash/Patrick's arguments. Also: - claims to have won "sextant contests" as a youth (note that Bing does not return any hits for the phrase "sextant contest", so I suspect they are rarely held), just as fattydash and Patrick are self-proclaimed experts on every topic they discuss; - has been asked why he puts headings to his posts, even though they are not displayed on BAUT (although they are in Patrick's posts on JREF); and - claims he is supported in his proposals by his girlfriend and his sister, just as Patrick claims support from his wife and mother. So, I gather the parade of socks marches on. I noticed those similarities as well but at least Patrick can spell and punctuate. He only comes off as mildly retarded. Dastardly appears to have serious mental issues. Neither seem to be able to stick to a topic or answer directly questions.
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Post by frenat on Dec 21, 2011 18:58:36 GMT -4
Sure, there's a "tell". But the point was, there is no one "size" of the moon in a photograph. Different lenses, different angles,will make it look a different size. So, you can't just eyeball a photograph and say, the Earth is the "wrong size" in it. My favorite website demonstrating this (sadly only available now on the wayback machine) web.archive.org/web/20080702050328/http://www.kevinwilley.com/l3_topic04.htmThis gif from that site illustrates it well. The truck and barn never move, only the focal length changes.
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Post by frenat on Dec 21, 2011 9:23:27 GMT -4
Also the size of the Earth in the photos taken from the moon's surface shouldn't be the exact size of the moon taken from the surface of the Earth. So many HBs have claimed. The size of the Earth in photos depends on the focal length of the camera. Others have done the math and shown the Earth appeared the correct size. HBs wrong yet again.
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Post by frenat on Dec 17, 2011 10:15:57 GMT -4
It was pretty obvious he'd be banned quickly. Which is probably what he wanted anyway. Any bets on how long until the first sock puppet?
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Post by frenat on Dec 16, 2011 20:36:14 GMT -4
Nope, parabolic dust arcs. Apollo 16's Grand Prix kicked up a great deal of dust. Haven't you watched the video of it? Water Forms A Parabolic Arc On Earth...But With The Absence Of Gravity, It Forms Spheres...Now Why Would The Parabolic Arc Of The Dust, Be The Same As Water In 1/6 Gravity...I Would Expect A Steeper Curve...!!! The steepness of the curve has only to do with the angle of ejection and nothing to do with strength of gravity. It forms a parabolic curve because of the absence of an atmosphere. Just one of many things in Apollo footage that shows it was NOT on Earth.
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Post by frenat on Dec 16, 2011 14:21:55 GMT -4
There Is No Time Delay... On the contrary, not only is the time delay present but it is possible to measure the orbit of the moon from variations in the time delay. www.mendeley.com/research/echoes-moon-7/My, those hoaxers were clever, how on earth did they know what details Italian schoolchildren would think to examine decades later? Of course the video he posted only has the first statement from Nixon and no replies so on that example there is no way to measure delay anyway.
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Post by frenat on Dec 9, 2011 22:00:13 GMT -4
Apollo never orbited the moon Apollo never landed on the moon Anytime you want to show the tiniest bit of proof for that? So far all we've seen is handwaving and bluster.
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Post by frenat on Dec 3, 2011 9:32:34 GMT -4
I'd like to know as well.
Why, given your wide-ranging ignorance and endless stream of errors in your claims, do you not once question your own conviction that Apollo was faked? You don't know anything about the program, you don't understand the science or technology, and you keep saying ridiculous things which are quickly debunked. So why don't you ever consider you might be wrong and all the knowledgeable people might be right?
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Post by frenat on Nov 29, 2011 20:04:47 GMT -4
From Google Books, page 14 of Magnificent Desolation. "Neil threw the switch to ignite the powered descent burn. Oddly, we could barely hear it or feel any sensation when a hot orange plume poured out of the engine and into the black space below us." You're welcome, Playdor. I don't know why a Google Books search would have been so hard for you, though. Looks like a generous use of literary license. They certainly didn't SEE any plume from where they were.
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