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Post by mndwrp on Dec 2, 2008 12:28:35 GMT -4
it was in my opinion a case of deeper mental problems and a psychiatrist and some medication probably would have helped a lot. However, trying to convince someone this far gone to trust someone, who in his mind is part of the conspiracy and having him take medication made by the evil pharmaceutical companies in next to impossible. Hopefully he'll realize all he's lost in the process and get out of it. It is a lot like a convert to a new cult or religion, it takes over his life completely and trying to convince him of the error of his ways is also next to impossible .. at this point i only hope he can help himself out of it I read massively on these various conspiracies when it started happening to him, to find out first if he was right ? ..hey you never know but nothing i ever saw or read ever convinced me of anything other than the creative craziness of all these things. so after a few months of intense online and in person debating i just gave up .. as did a lot of people around him
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Post by mndwrp on Dec 1, 2008 9:36:34 GMT -4
This happened to someone i know..
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Daddy was an average working Joe, trying to make it for his small family and loving wife. Out of curiosity he began watching 9/11 conspiracy videos and found it to be surreal that this was happening and yet the public didn't know about it .. he decided to inform the people around him by making dozens of CDs containing the said videos and to spread the "Truth" furthermore he had to get out there and start massively distribute homemade flyers on the subject.
Mommy was slightly annoyed by it but still supported him for the sake of their family.
As if that wasn't enough Daddy also found out that this moon landing thing also wasn't true! Daddy read that corporations were introducing mind altering chemicals in every day products so Daddy stopped brushing his teeth and putting on deodorant..
Mommy was getting angrier
It only get worse from here.. Daddy lost his business, Daddy runs for cover when he sees a plane in the sky "spying" on him. Daddy now believes the Holocaust never happened and the all powerful and evil Jews are plotting to destroy 80% of the world's population to enhance their wealth.
Mommy kicked him out...
Now Daddy is waiting on divorce papers and is now living in a messy 1 bedroom apartment, still trying to spread the "Truth" ...
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I'm sure by now you've heard similar stories. The point of this was not to teach anyone a lesson but this is a story i witnessed first hand and am quite saddened by it. I will not go as far as say that this conspiracy nonsense caused the events, however they sure did fuel his paranoia about the world and enhance, if only briefly, his sense of self esteem.
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Post by mndwrp on Jul 7, 2006 10:54:45 GMT -4
hi guys im happy to see that there is some interest after all ! ;D as far as the actual project goes i havent had time to start anything concrete yet (i just bought a new house and am working long hours on a feature film..) i did, however, start gathering hirez pictures from the different apollo missions (the hirez hasselblad scans at apolloarchive.com are amazing!) im getting the hirezest cleanest pictures available to be able to go in and out of the pictures in great detail when explaining things like the crosshaires and shadows .. im also getting all the "bad" pictures of overexposed landscapes and accidental shutter releases just to show that they didnt take all perfect pictures .... so, slowly but surely, the project will go ahead .. but it wont be done overnight since i want it to be good ill keep you guys informed of the progress
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Post by mndwrp on Jun 18, 2006 19:18:36 GMT -4
well i found a goldmine of information (thanks clavius.org) www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/frame.htmlmy first step will be to familiarise myself with the different missions and related photos and gather as much as the hoax pics as possible does anyone know of a good ressource for the videos ? there are some videos on that site but most are very lowres ..
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Post by mndwrp on Jun 16, 2006 16:37:41 GMT -4
i will sure try to find that film .. dvd or otherwise .. thanks for the heads up on this one ! and thanks for the offer to help in what you can do its very much appreciated ! i guess the first thing im gonna do is start gathering is the best unedited hirez pictures and videos of the hoax claim pictures .. (crosshairs, footprints etc...) and other pictures with the same phenomena that the hoaxsters dont usually see ... i know all the pictures and videos have a specific code but im not that familiar with what pictures are what and where and from what mission .. helping me clarify that would be a great start !
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Post by mndwrp on Jun 16, 2006 14:54:01 GMT -4
i have this idea running in my head for a couple of days now .. im gonna lay it on you people to see if i can gather some interest.
the basic idea is as follows .. conspiracy buffs tend to rely on bad science put together in entertaining ways to spread their beleifs. an example would be those moon movies made up of photos explained badly by some narrator with a deep voice .. my idea would be to make such a film in the exact same format (we might have to dumb down the real science a bit) with narrator, but the goal would be to debunk most of the moon landing claims and try to bring some credible proof ...in an entertaining way
if such a film already exists please let me know about it .. it would save me alot of trouble
i am a professional CGI special effects artist so i know a thing or two about what it takes to make images look real and i can have acces to the facilities needed to accomplish such a film
if anyone is interested in getting involved in a project like that, maybe in the different required fileds like writing, research, video/sound editing or even if you have a nice deep voice .. i shouldn't do it because im from quebec and i got this subtle french accent going on and that, as stupid as it may seem, might make us lose credibility (its a french sub-conspiracy to regain the colonies .. you never know...)
this would be on a totally non-profit basis, distributed on the web for free (because beleive it or not i heard the argument "the guy who did loose change is giving it for free on the web .. why would he do that if it wasnt true .. so .. free on the web it is ! )
anyways .. i was just testing the grounds to see the interest in a project like this
thanks !!
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Post by mndwrp on Jun 18, 2006 18:59:17 GMT -4
i sure hope you debunked them like crazy ! .. i'd love to see the show !! im gonna definitely be looking for it
keep it up Jay ! you rock !
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Post by mndwrp on Jun 15, 2006 20:52:02 GMT -4
well im gonna reply to myself here ..
look before you ask .. there a national geographic special about it discussed on the Reality of Apollo thread
ill be watching that !!
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Post by mndwrp on Jun 15, 2006 20:22:46 GMT -4
i was wondering if there is a good credible debunk documentary out there .. it always seems that those who beleive in the hoax theories get their beleifs in some crap documentary like "something stupid happened to us when we came back from the moon" (its not quite the right title but i like this one better !)
i did a bit of research on this but didnt find much ..
i know there probably dozens of episodes of nova that must talk about the moon landings .. i'm more after a point by point scientific rebuttal of the main allegations explained in not too complicated terms .. (simplicity has to be a factor to convince the not too bright people who beleive this non-science)
thanks for the help !
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Post by mndwrp on Jun 15, 2006 21:12:51 GMT -4
is there a download source for this program ? i checked my usual torrent sites but didnt find it ...
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Post by mndwrp on Jun 26, 2006 21:44:22 GMT -4
i sure will .. theyre always good for a laugh at least ! ;D
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Post by mndwrp on Jun 26, 2006 19:26:42 GMT -4
i think the pattern is
"what about xyz?" "x is this, y is nonsense because of that, and z isnt true at all" "im not convinced..." "its the truth .. look it up" "uh.. what about xyz?"
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Post by mndwrp on Jun 25, 2006 7:47:20 GMT -4
and apollo 13 went without a hitch
Whish is not disputed as being Perfect, the other 6 are.
actually, as dumb as it may sound, ive read on some conspiracy site that it was a "fake mishap to prove that their mission weren't perfect" ... i think its total BS ... (not bart but the bull kind)
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Post by mndwrp on Jun 24, 2006 9:35:09 GMT -4
and apollo 13 went without a hitch !
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Post by mndwrp on Jun 23, 2006 16:20:32 GMT -4
I've just checked out "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" on Google video.
you should also check out "Astronauts gone wild" by the same moron .. i think its also on google video. "A funny thing" was pretty stupid but "Astronauts" just makes me angry
(i know its off topic .. sorry guys !)
in a time like thins i am reminded of what a wise man once said .. that wise man being Sideshow Bob .. and i quote .. "Die Bart Die"
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