|
Post by gillianren on Jun 15, 2010 13:43:38 GMT -4
my friend is his sister. he was betrayed by his fiance. I told her to introducehim to a new girl tat she knows is better so he forgets the old one. And if it worked that way, that would be great. But he still needs time to come to terms with what happened to him; the grieving process is important. Further, just being introduced to someone "that she knows is better" doesn't mean he'll hit it off with her. Haven't you ever had an unrequited crush? Known someone where you agreed you'd be great for each other but just don't feel that way? Human psychology just isn't that simple.
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 15, 2010 13:38:32 GMT -4
And you can't limit it to just children, either; I know several people who have believed things because they felt they were supposed to which they didn't hear about until adulthood, and yet they can sometimes be reasoned out of it. It's all to do with personality. Broadly, though, the average person is not amenable to being shown that they are wrong, at least not most of the time.
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 15, 2010 4:07:05 GMT -4
We're not talking about your anecdotes. We're talking about data and scientific explanations.
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 14, 2010 21:01:45 GMT -4
Remember, Jason Thompson, mental illness is all in your head! (Yeah, I know--it's where I keep my brain.)
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 14, 2010 20:59:37 GMT -4
I think, PW, that the point is being made that they can't.
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 14, 2010 15:55:34 GMT -4
I incidentally gave my body time almost the whole day t orecover but it didn't until I thaught positive thaughts. the power of psychology to heal the body is I think well established in may cases. What evidence do you have that it's your positive thoughts and not just time elapsed? Or are you stating the coincidence itself as evidence that it's not just a coincidence?
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 14, 2010 14:41:06 GMT -4
the placebo effect is psychological. it has a reason why it works. and the theory has scientific explanations discussed in the book. something related to vibrations and stuff, but not without 'logical' explanations.and it has case studies, unallowed to post them though. Actually, according to my reading, it isn't. At least not entirely. Your brain can actually produce chemicals that make you feel better if you think you're going to. If your problem is short-term, that's enough, but your brain can only manage it for so long. They have demonstrated this by doing real research, not relying on anecdotes, which all the "studies" you've been presenting in favour of your ideas do. "Vibrations and stuff" is not science. It's woo.
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 14, 2010 14:37:23 GMT -4
Bill Kaysing is full of baloney. And if you stay polite and abide by the rules, there's no reason to get banned.
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 14, 2010 4:17:38 GMT -4
Have you ever heard of the "placebo effect"?
And no, it's not a theory. Theories have study and evidence, not just misleading self-help books.
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 13, 2010 14:30:01 GMT -4
Not necessarily, Lionking. In fact, that attitude is the problem. For example, my condition is chronic and untreatable. Oh, I'll have good days, but on days when I don't, spending all my time trying not to think negative thoughts just makes it harder to get through the day. If I had terminal cancer, it's better for everyone concerned to come to terms with that fact. When my father died, it was healthier to grieve than to put a good face on things. (My choices at the time weren't so simple, given how young I was.) While hoping for the best in a situation which isn't irreparable is good, hoping you're going to end a problem successfully which can't be just makes things worse.
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 12, 2010 20:12:53 GMT -4
Yeah, that's still nonsense. When I'm depressed, which is biochemical, believing I'm happy doesn't work. Telling myself that I should be happy and nothing's really wrong deepens my depression, because obviously, I'm just not a good enough person. People with cancer? They don't have to be happy all the time, but everyone keeps going on about how they should keep a positive outlook, so when they're understandably hurt and angry and scared, they make things worse. And a lot of cancer support groups will essentially boot people out who are having a recurrence, because their bad news will bring everyone else down. Positive thinking will help, but you have to know when it hurts.
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 11, 2010 19:24:02 GMT -4
On the other hand, evidence suggests that everyone pressuring you to be cheerful all the time when you have a good reason not to be is bad for your health.
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 11, 2010 13:19:44 GMT -4
Coincidence happens all the time. My boyfriend gave me something I wanted but wasn't expecting for Christmas; is that synchronicity or just his doing something for me beyond what he ordinarily would spend? When I got into the college I wanted, was that synchronicity or just hard work and filling out the applications? Sure, I've had people call when I was thinking about them, but I've also had them not a whole lot more often.
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 11, 2010 13:17:26 GMT -4
Gosh, HBs being deceptive? That never happens!
|
|
|
Post by gillianren on Jun 11, 2010 2:43:00 GMT -4
I just don't believe in "synchronicity" unless you're talking about the Police album.
|
|