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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 18, 2009 0:31:29 GMT -4
From the looks of things Oldman, it has been explained to you. And you dismiss the explaination.
Also consider that these photos have been around for nearly four decades, and have been seen by who knows how many photography experts over that time.
Do you seriously think you're in a position to claim something professionals and experts haven't seen?
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 14, 2009 8:00:33 GMT -4
That had to be fun to see.
I tell you, I get a kick over the opening of "A Haunting".
"In this world, there is real evil." Each time I hear that, I think "And as this show demostrates, there is also real ignorance/stupidity."
I recall one episode, a child had problems breathing (this occured after a string of "events"). A clergy man was present, and when he saw it, he exclaimed "Demon attack!"
I had to keep myself from laughing.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 14, 2009 7:56:08 GMT -4
Mini pin, not a pug, PW. Pugs are too ugly looking for my tastes!
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 14, 2009 7:54:37 GMT -4
I suppose you could prolong his suffering by telling what you do know about the cameras. Then, you can be amused when he types in his response. I got the same stuff from Straydog, when he tells me I'm ignorant on science. And yet, HE thinks that Intelligent Design has scienctific evidece that supports it, and evolution does not. Funny thing also is that he doesn't know how moon rocks can be older than Earth rocks.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 14, 2009 7:51:55 GMT -4
Isn't there a hall of fame (shame?) for HB quotes somewhere? This would make a good addition to it.
I would love to see a video that shows non-Apollo images that also lack stars (shuttle, ISS, Voyager, Cassini, Galileo, New Horizons, Messenger, ect). I wonder what excuses they'll make up.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 12, 2009 16:05:39 GMT -4
That says most of it, Al.
Indeed, the mind also plays a big part in what we hear, too, as well as how we interpret the meanings of what we see and hear.
People on the shows I mention can see vague figures and hear sounds and think them as evidence of spirits hanging around the house.
The real skeptics see it, and realize it's reflections in one's glasses (I've expereinced this; seeing shapes, but knowing that it's reflections in my glasses), and sounds from the natural enviroment.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 12, 2009 7:38:08 GMT -4
I believe I experience a similar phenomenon.
I notice more pressure occurs when my dog, a mini pin, is standing on me than when he's laying down. Same with my cat, especially when she jumps off of me, putting all her weight (and it's a bit of weight for a cat) on her back feet.
I imagine the phenomenon with the weight distribution of the LM vs the astronauts is an extenstion of this occurance.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 12, 2009 7:34:18 GMT -4
Yet another example that logic is not the strong point of an HB.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 11, 2009 22:51:59 GMT -4
Besides, they can't be taken in low earth orbit, as the halo of hydrogen obscures the view, as can be seen in the UV images of Earth. Doesn't the Hubble have UV cameras? If so, how does it get around this? Or are there UV observatories beyond the influence of the hydrogen cloud?
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 11, 2009 22:49:27 GMT -4
Ah, and old thread gets renewed! By meeeeee!
Anyway,
As well as the photos of floodlit scenes on the shuttle and ISS, I also refer to images that show only the limb of the Earth, with the atmosphere clearly visible. Other than that, the photo is completely black.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 11, 2009 8:09:45 GMT -4
Well, and example would be Straydog's complaints. To sum them up;
-they could've been taken in LEO
-the Earth could've been added in by SFX
-they don't look like the images from the Clemintine probe's images of the solar cornoa taken when the sun is behind the Earth (he refers to images taken by the star tracker cameras)
I recall Cosmored (aka, DavidC) say the images look like Earth based images.
So, in other words, HBs just make excuses about these images.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 11, 2009 8:03:40 GMT -4
Someone did something like that Raven; search for "Misbegotten Moon".
That's what I turn to for laughs.
Jarrah's videos just make me feel pity for the guy; he has no idea how empty, or how wrong, his claims are.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 10, 2009 22:18:05 GMT -4
Also concerning this claim is that no one that works in the film industry, or any related field, has been able to support Rene's assumption that props are labeled with letters.
Rene obvious never looked at the numerous photos from the shuttle and ISS. Nor has he seen the images from the Voyager probes, Galileo, Cassini, Messenger, Deep Impact, or New Horizons, just to name a few.
Can someone please make a YouTube video that shows Apollo isn't the only mission that lacks stars in the images?
BTW, the HBs still complain when shown images with stars taken on the moon, from the Apollo 16 mission.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 10, 2009 22:09:48 GMT -4
Practically all of Jarrah's videos concerning space are a hoot. It's the degree of how much a hoot that varies.
I found one of his premises for his "MarsFaker" series a large scale hoot. The thinking was right out of "Monty Python and the Holy Grail".
But that's another thread.......
BTW Dwight, had any apology been given, or just more denial, excuses, ad homs, ect?
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jan 9, 2009 13:50:43 GMT -4
It's like Jay said, Dwight; the goal of hoax believers is to make NASA look evil. It doesn't matter how many plot holes there are in their ideas, nor does it matter how much their ideas lack logic, intelligence, or education.
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