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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on Jun 18, 2007 18:44:44 GMT -4
Isn't Straydog2 Jack White's lap dog? Straydog2 is indeed Duane Damon, defender of Jack White, but to simply refer to him as Jack White's lap dog is to do an injustice to him... he is the lap dog of anyone and everyone that is anti-NASA. Discussion with straydog is like that with rocky, only much MUCH worse.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on Jun 8, 2007 13:03:21 GMT -4
I then spend a couple of hours searching out other web sites and quickly learned that the 'hoax' didn't exist and felt foolish for even doubting it one iota. There is nothing foolish in doubting Apollo (or any other long held "truth"). In fact that is intelligent behaviour, made even more intelligent by the fact that you tested these doubts by learning all you could and disregarding a hypothesis which was not backed by the evidence. I have no problems with those that doubt the truth of Apollo if they are prepared to learn, evaluate the evidence and reject the beliefs that don't fit the facts. This is the very way in which scientific knowledge moves forward. Sometimes long held beliefs must be discarded because they no longer hold up in the face of evidence. It is those, like Rocky, that reject the facts that don't fit the belief that I have a problem with. This is not the behaviour of a truth seeker, it is more like the entrenched thinking of a religious zealot.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on Jul 11, 2007 10:56:15 GMT -4
Welcome, alex04. You are lucky 13 - that is, in response to rocky's claim "the lurkers and viewers are watching and judging" (that he is right), 13 "lurkers and viewers"; have now answered and unanimously rejected his claims. Poor rocky. Maybe he needs a new theme song. "I fight reality, reality always wins..." But don't you see this is absolute proof that Rocky is right. The fact that not one person has supported him shows that there can be only three alternatives: 1. LunarOrbit is intercepting the messages from the hoards that know Rocky is right and is secretly banning them before they have even had a chance to post. 2. That the "evil government" (a wholly owned subsidery of NWO inc) is intercepting these truth seekers and preventing them form posting here. 3. That the truthseekers know that the "evil government" will use this site to track them down. The black helicopters will arrive in the middle of the night and they will never be seen again. Why do you think Rocky uses internet cafes? Not all truthseekers can be as heroic as he is. OK, I'm off to take my medication now and lie down in a darkened room.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on Jun 8, 2007 18:10:26 GMT -4
I might as well speak frankly. I think all of you know that Apollo was a hoax. With every post you make I become more and more confident it wasn't a hoax. People like you do wonders for the pro-Apollo side. You are so blatant in your lack of relevant knowledge, ability to understand even basic logic and entrenched, bigoted views that if you can not fail to convince in a neutral that Apollo was genuine. If you didn't already exist we would have to invent you.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on May 27, 2007 23:37:32 GMT -4
Oh, no. Jack White, the world-class photographic analyst, David Percy of the Royal Photographic Society, and Duane Daman (whoever he is) can't possibly be wrong when they claim on the basis of their extensive and well-recognized background in photographic analysis that this is just now how it's supposed to be. Duane Daman (aka straydog) is an antiques dealer who admits he has no training in, or basic understanding of, science, photography or engineering. Despite this he claims that he only has to look at Apollo photographs to know they are fake, he knows the Van Allen belts are deadly and he knows that the LM is so "silly looking" that it can't possibly work. He knows instinctively that no human has ever set foot on the Moon. It is impossible. It cant be done... except, they may have done if they used the secret UFO technology NASA has. He also claims that this position is not contradictory. I've always found it fascinating that someone who works in an industry so full of charlatans trying to pass of fakes as the real thing, should so easily be fooled by charlatans like Percy and White who are trying to pass of the real thing as fakes.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on Jul 10, 2007 10:41:48 GMT -4
Anyone who doesn't see anything suspicious in the behavior of the astronauts here is either a disinfo agent, a blind patriot, or a moron. I think disinfo agent is the most likely. Well as I am not a disinfo agent, nor can I come under the category of a blind patriot as I am not American I guess I am being called a moron. I demand that you present evidence that I have a substantially below average IQ or withdraw your accusation. Given that you have been given this warning: So here's the deal: I will ban Rocky for one month if he doesn't do one of the following within 24 hours of his next login: a) provide irrefutable evidence to support his accusation that we are paid to defend Apollo -- or -- b) withdraw the accusation with a sincere apology to everyone I will even send a PM to Rocky with this information just in case he doesn't read this thread. I can only assume that I will not be reading any more of your [sarcasm]truly enlightening[/sarcasm] posts until the second week in August. I would like to say how much I will miss your presence here... I would like to say it but I won't, because then I really would be guilty of spreading disinformation.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on Jul 6, 2007 12:46:18 GMT -4
I wish more 17 year olds simply thought the way BertLS does. I just wish more 17 year olds would simply think.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on May 12, 2007 21:20:24 GMT -4
"Trained & experienced photographer"? What training? What experience? Hell, I'm both trained (a half unit whilst doing a course in Chemistry) and experienced (I've owned various cameras for more than 30 years). It doesn't prove that I'm any good.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on May 22, 2007 6:09:46 GMT -4
Not to mention that launching an Apollo mission from Vandenberg would have necessitated it flying over the continental U.S., which would have attracted a great deal of attention; Not least when the spent 1st stage impacted the ground about 640km inland.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on May 6, 2007 20:52:22 GMT -4
Finally, I think that the "Apollo 20" launch is actually a Sat-V (comparing it to Apollo 11 footage) so it's just a case of which one. I suspect 4, 6 or Skylab 1, but without checking all the launches..... It's not Skylab1, that was a two stage version of the Saturn V with no CSM. In this video the CM and launch escape tower is clearly visible.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on Apr 23, 2007 10:30:43 GMT -4
Agreed on most counts, but I'm positive that straydog/Duane Daman are not the same as Grieg Dempsey/spazmo (I don't know about showtime but have suspicions...) There is no way that showtime is straydog. The Venus argument took a level of astronomical and scientific understanding that straydog just doesn't have. I have never seen a unique idea from straydog, he just copies and pastes other peoples articles. I would also be surprised if showtime was greigdempsy, he usually trolls from his first post. spazmo could easily be greigdempsy. It would be reasonably easy for LunarOrbit to check this as he has a static but shared IP address. Both times he was banned (grieddempsy and as orumdude) it stopped gonzo posting.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on Apr 22, 2007 20:36:54 GMT -4
Agreed on most counts, but I'm positive that straydog/Duane Daman are not the same as Grieg Dempsey/spazmo (I don't know about showtime but have suspicions...) You are correct about Straydog and greigdempsy not being the same person. Straydog is a fanatic but not really nasty. His agenda is to evangelise the world to the "Apollo Hoax Truth". He gets frustrated because he lacks any relevant knowledge to back up his beliefs. As he is shown to be wrong he gets ruder and ruder as he gets more and more frustrated until he eventually gets himself banned. Like all CTs he will never take responsibility for his actions, he is always banned from sites as a result of the action of the "disinformation agents". Except on the Education Forum where he has to use his own name he almost always goes by the Straydog name. Straydog is American. greigdempsy is a totally different kettle of fish. He turns up on different sites using different names. He has a totally different agenda to Straydog. He does not really care about the Apollo hoax theory, he just gets his kicks from insulting people. He has been banned from this site twice, as greigdempsy and as orumdude. He was banned from the Unexplained-Mysteries site as kilter and was banned form BAUT as inverse. He has also called himself poundland. He is Scottish. Straydog and greigdempsy set up the MSN board together (as anyone that has been to that train crash of a site will know griegdempsy calls himself elsewhere_man there). They had a falling out when Straydog started to delete posts he didn't like. Elsewhere_man removed Straydogs administrator status so Straydog deleted every post he had made.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on Apr 20, 2007 22:26:35 GMT -4
Who wants to bet that Spasmo = Showtime and that he just couldn't stay away from all the attention he was getting here? Actually the style is more like greigdempsey , inverse, Kilter, orumdude, inverse, poundland, elsewhere_man.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on Apr 20, 2007 8:18:57 GMT -4
I've ran across other shots that show what might be some unidentifiable stars/planets while playing around with these photos. But I dont see the point in pointing you in that direction cause it would just be used for your ammunition in debunking, & not towards achieving the truth So to find the truth you hide any evidence that could be used by your opponents? This is obviously some strange usage of the word truth I wasn't previously aware of. The truth is NEVER protected by hiding evidence, it is revealed by examining ALL the evidence.
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Post by Waspie_Dwarf on Apr 4, 2007 20:23:10 GMT -4
So let's get this straight, the discover of and one of the greatest (if not THE greatest) experts on the Van Allen belts is not good enough for your purposes.
Or are you simply going to say, "not him" or "they don't count" every time someone provides a name?
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