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Post by furi on Aug 31, 2007 23:37:27 GMT -4
I've always wondered about about the whole "remained in orbit" thang
IF! we take the HB argument that VAB and cis lunar radiation is fatal to Human lifeforms, it would not exclude the sending of an unmanned mission to the moon. why is there then the need to hide it in LEO/NEO/Polar?!?!?! orbits. a few tape loops and a radio bounce could redirect the origins. however this doesn't quite match the video footage shot from the spacecraft, but hey, never let a fact get in the way of a good argument
apologies it is 0440 and I is a tired and slightly inebriated unit
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Post by furi on Aug 14, 2007 19:44:09 GMT -4
Like many others, if weight of evidence came down on the side of shenanigans I would have to change my viewpoint, however I feel (as has been pointed out earlier) that this is a loaded question, the sort that ends up with an a repost and thread linky stating "see even these lot say it could have been faked if the evidence proved it" so as such you can probably sense my hackles raising and a sense of ... yeeeeeesssss and the follow up question is?
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Post by furi on Aug 31, 2007 10:05:53 GMT -4
The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one they say.
P(Mars to Terran Transit of hostile Alien Lifeform) <= 0.000001
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Post by furi on Aug 29, 2007 5:57:25 GMT -4
I enjoy reading his posts as he has some rather impressive swearage going on, I do feel he is starting to repeat them though, maybe a higher Swearweasel or Badger Quotient might improve the originality and also relieve the immense pressure of the weight of the universe resting on him.
maybe all numeric answers to his questions should be fully formatted so no preconceived numeric anomalies can creep in, that way you can be understood 1x10^2 + 0x10^1 + 0x10^0 percent (well > 0k995%) or answer in Hex notation of 64 bit Real numbers (IEEE 754 (IIRC))
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Post by furi on Jul 16, 2007 16:02:33 GMT -4
Fas has some good links in relation to the high altitude tests, one for starfish relating to military and space interdiction (although well after the event) could be be : www.fas.org/spp/starwars/congress/1997_h/h970716u.htmIt may actually have been the space race that stopped the further hane experiments, as expansion into space grew, the weaponisation of space is a straight forward logical conclusion, plant a geostationary satellite over your antagonist loaded with RVs no pesky IR give away or telltale radar track, you just have to "keep watching the Skies!" OK it was in the middle of the space race, It was also in the middle of the race to build feasible nuclear offensive/defensive systems I don't know the figures but I would put money on the Military getting more money for research and production than NASA. Even if (Major leap of judgment here) the objective of Starfish and Argus and the other Hi alt experiments had been to disrupt the Russian programme by introducing unanticipated variables into mission profiles, the risk posed by even heavy ionised nuclei or additional particle belts would be minimal in comparison to all the other possible failure risks. unless the plan was to spend a long period of time at a specific altitude within the induced belt. even so it would not take too much additional mass for increased shielding to be introduced to in flight clothing (best mass conservation to shield the biological component would be clothing based shielding)
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Post by furi on Jul 15, 2007 8:08:30 GMT -4
I thimk a lot of the feathers you get for craftwork, have been washed and baked occaisionally dyed, to get rid of possible parasites and yukkines.
they might vacuum (low pressure) dry them after washing 'twould save on the leccy if a water Vac pump was used.
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Post by furi on Jul 14, 2007 10:55:08 GMT -4
that would be the for the same reason I stood behind my TV (when I used to watch it) and tried to see if I could reflect the signal from the remote off Retards Eyes into the sensor (Retard is the name of my old cat, was originally called Aristotle, but got changed for Fluffeh reasons)
Results inconclusive, but what a way to waste a lazy sunday.
Yay for Science!
(if you hold a shell up to your ears you can hear the sea, but not many people know that if you hold a squirrel to your ears you get thrown out of the preservation area and threatened with prosecution)
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Post by furi on Jul 10, 2007 12:19:36 GMT -4
Wahhh, can't find my file, might be on home comp, I have a beautiful WWII Naval gunnary training manual that lists the corrections for Lattitude and firing angle and distance direction, Giving corrections for Coriolis and Gravity, I was very suprised at how much data there is in regards to Hi Angle Firing, and how accurately it was calculated (Paris Gun I believe was the first gun to need correcting due to visible coriolis effect)
Will Post link once I find it again
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Post by furi on Jul 10, 2007 6:22:55 GMT -4
To simulate 1/6th gravity they built a sound stage in orbit then through fantastic and precise aerobraking and applied thrust to maintain a gravitational acceleration of 1/6g. which they used to do takes, this is the reason for having the prop markings on the dust particles.
The above statement is of course ludicrous
They of course they used their Anti Gravity device on low power to make a localised Moon Gravity Area, this is just the same technology they used to create the fake moon rocks, they where allowed to Cool in a subdued anti gravity enviroment, and bombarded with exotic energy weapons provided by the New Scouting For Boys Movement and The Carpenters, which von Braun met at their secret Fusion Reactor/Lunar transit base in Antartica. the reason it was so easy to have everyone believe it and not come forward was not through NASA "Death Squads" but through Genetic profiling all the families and the people involved where chosen as for years they have been subtley manipulated through selective breeding and then hypnotises through television to believe that they where building the US Space program.
It is all so obvious only someone who is blinded to the truth cannot see it.
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Post by furi on Jul 9, 2007 12:08:59 GMT -4
I don't think therefore I am not. Congratulations on your non-existence! Thankyou but as my non existance is clearly evident, the previous message must have been faked, therefore I don't exist
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Post by furi on Jul 9, 2007 8:31:20 GMT -4
I don't think therefore I am not.
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Post by furi on Jul 11, 2007 17:11:34 GMT -4
I agree many HBs think this way. To them there are only two possibilities -- succeed or cheat. Other possibilities are apparently inconceivable to the typical HB. It makes me wonder what kind of sicko scumbags we're dealing with that they can't conceive of someone acting honorably; that the only response to failure is cheating. That almost makes me feel sorry for them, any major breakthrough or achievement must have been hoaxed, all accounts of humans success in overcoming problems and enviroment, meh Faked hoaxed or aliens, Pyramids - Aliens, Stonehenge - Flying saucer inspection pit. Great wall of china - Atlanean breakwater. Do people really trek to the northpole, thats an easy one to fake, or sail solo around the world, or flew across the Atlantic fly around the world, go to the Antarctic, Cross deserts mountains etc. is there nothing of human achievements they can attribute to just us. The first time I Climbed up to and walked the Crib Goch and along to the top of Snowden I was 7 and scared out of my teeny tiny, there was no reason for me to go, I could get photos and postcards from the shop at Pen-y-pas but I did it, Strangely the photo record of me out on the arette has been lost, does that mean I didn't do it then, it was not a first or even the 1000000th time it had been walked but it was a first in my mind, First major heart stoppingly truly fearful exhilarating fantastic enjoyable sphincter-factor 9 inducing experience. Why then, if a 7 year old who was previously petrified of heights can organise a trip to Beddgelert with a friend, camp out and then do the horseshoe overcoming all obstacles in our path, could thousands of Minds and Engineers not place some Brave Trusting Men Around and on the moon?.
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Post by furi on Jul 11, 2007 11:51:44 GMT -4
Thats IT, That is why he organised his own shooting, he couldn't face the guilt of not living up to a promise to go to the moon.
Now if only more politicians arranged for their own assassination for every little fib they told, or promise they couldn't keep
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Post by furi on Jul 5, 2007 8:16:52 GMT -4
As has been stated before, the buoyancy effect exhibited by He in Air would have no impact in an He atmosphere,
The drag effects of atmosphere would be lessened but not eliminated, aerosolisation and vortices would still be in evidence.
however this theory would introduce a whole host of other problems,
The Enviroment suits would be required to function, with cooling and life support, and the cooling system as documented would not function, so would need a larger radiative system to dump the excess heat the exhalations of the Astronauts/Film crew would need to be sumped locally or condensed and collected through a rebreather system as these heavier gasses would cascade to the floor possibly creating disturbance.
the other problem is that you would effectively have a closed system, which is having Heat Pumped into it at a great rate due to Body activity, electronic systems and Lighting, Placing small fans within the enviroment would just increase the heat input as there is no cooling, unless you intend the fans to move air over a cooled surface, this however would require some serious air conditioning sytems, even with large heat dumps (pumped fluid cooling systems under floor in support structures and props) the cooling would be huge but not technically insurmountable. However you would now have a serious number of convection systems set up, which could move dust and materials.
The easier solution would be to lie and say the Lunar rover did not work as performed & not to do any of the Lunar rover footage/experiments, or to change the characteristics of the lunar soil, to one more friendly to simulation
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Post by furi on Jul 2, 2007 13:14:25 GMT -4
wouldn't an endorsement from Marcus Allen, be rather similar to
The Khmer Rouge Doctrine - "Truly a masterclass in furthering the class struggle" - Mao Zedong "A good attempt" - Josef Stalin "Thought proking, you shouldn't close your mind to possibilities" -Slobodan Milošević "It draws upon old ideas and gives them a new slant, I couldn't put it down" - Jean Kambanda
why utilise a sledge hammer, when a Hydraulic Pile driver is available
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