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Post by furi on Jun 9, 2007 12:31:52 GMT -4
[ I don't know if you're being serious or trying to be funny. This is supposed to be a frame of the footage released by the government. Why would the government doctor a picture of the nose of a 757 to make it look like the nose of a plane that's too pointed to be that of a 757? ohhh. sorry you just asked what do I think of this, I wasn;'t given a context or even a referance to it proposed context, I have told you what I see when looking at the picture, now you have had my response with no preproposed ideas to the subject, I suppose that could confirm my objectivity also you never asked about my abilities at photographic interpretation, I have none, I am also highly colourblind, and have had since an early age nearly no stereoscopic vision (as a result I tend to see through optical illusions and photographic representations of 3d,) I do however through being colourblind perform large mental calculations on everything I see to determine if the colour I am seeing is the actual colour an object could be, and do a lot of correction on looking at objects for the first time, I also have a very good luminance response, as my CDV is more to do with an absence of cones in general opposed to a specific absence In context, what type of video camera was used, and what are its video chracteristics, can I see the original please and not something that has been digitally processed many times, in relation to nose pointiness, what is the effective closing speed of the plane in question, can be derived from subsequent frames and visual measurement. what is the persistance of the sensor in question, longer persistance at a high velocity would elongate the nose. what is the distance to the questioned object, from that we can work out a size per pixel for the object, although with the post processing of the image it would be incredibly difficult to recognise artefacting filtering and averaging and therefore derive any meaningful geometry.. conclusion, of all the photo evidence, the fact you have chosen this poor quality digitally manipulated image, would indicate that you are clutching at a very insubstantial straw, mind you that straw could just be a jpeg sampling error
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Post by furi on Jun 8, 2007 17:04:49 GMT -4
OK you have asked me twice now lets cast my eye over it.
I see a lo res* Jpeg compressed photograph that has been digitally altered (evidence through the circled area and the addition of a logo (FFS), the image either in the circle or outside it has been altered, either in degredation or enhancement. it shows signs of multiple lefels of artefacts or someone cating multiple sharpen filters over a previously artefacted image, which would indicate that this image has undergone a minimum of 3 levels of digital processing, the logo denoting the source showing the least compression errors the sky and contrasted down light (see below) appear to have gone through many high order jpeg compress sequences, which would account for some of the serious blending/bleeding/boundary/definition anomolies
I perceive a representation of sky which jpg compression has has a field day with as the boundaries of shade are very noticeable within the blue I perceive what could be cloud dust or smoke one area looking almost Gaussian in density, I determine a uniform slab faced structure or wall in colour and perceived scale I fancy a medieval gritstone defense, for a Spanish city or similar, a causeway or raised platform almost reminiscent of a monorail track which seems to be heading into the wall to possible light sources one spherical the other with a downward reflector, however due to the quality of image it is hard to perceive as there are definite discrete steps in colour and intensity that do not follow with the inverse square law, due to the glare of the lights I can deduce that either the capture device was of limited quality or is fixed in place, whichever the contrast is bad, within the highlighted area I see Jpeg artefacts more clearly over the continuation of the background. after playing with some filters, it is more aesthetically pleasing when converted to monochrome scale in Blues, however the highlighted area spoils the overall effect
edit * Low res is not exactly what I mean as it has a 1-1 res and is not line doubled etc, Lo fi would be better, some of the scaling look like it has been reduced and then enlarged to that size, I used to do vid streaming for a couple of sites and even in 1998 I would have been ashamed of definition like that from a cheapo webcam running 1 FPS over 14k,
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Post by furi on Oct 10, 2007 15:54:45 GMT -4
well we could strat from abbas firnas, and progress through the heavier than air flight (yes I know Firnas wasn't the first) would also like to see Sam Cody in there as although didn't do much for powered flight seemed to do did some good aerodynamiic research
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Post by furi on Jul 16, 2007 14:45:49 GMT -4
conceptually some tried technical, scientific and logical. experimentally some tried accessible, observable, and provable, inevitably some entertained the ideas and took them to conclusions using the above.
let us hope that Dr. Plaits Daughter whether her inclination be inclined either to the artistic, fanciful, technical or logical, she at least can understand what is plausible or reasonable.
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Post by furi on Oct 10, 2007 15:31:47 GMT -4
that's no Rob Winston. there is a definate Mouse dash deficit .
I unfortunately have to work for the DCSF (Dept Children Schools and Families (Previously the DfES Departmentment for Education and Skills)) even prior to the fox proggy way back in the thatcherite years of the UK, we had to do a report on "why the lunar landings were hoaxed" as an exercise in sorting through BS (not Bart Sibrel) to attune ourselvers to the various interpretations of history and to make us think. unfortunately I now have to deal with Creationist schools and what can only be described as Luddite/saboteur schools that will not allow their students even knowledge of computers, or fundie schools that teach various religious doctrines and then blame us for taking the "systematic conventional" view that pi does not equal 4 and that the Eart is not the centre of the universe.
you have to just love the independant school system, wspescially as we know how much these Enlightened parents are paying for this Edumacation
EDIT.. due two my fowl smelling anne grandma
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Post by furi on Jul 6, 2007 7:55:56 GMT -4
A ready source of 3He would help considerably The direct Energy generation in addition to the thermal output would be a nice little bonus,
It's nice and stable as well, currently it is quite costly to manufacture as the weapons- grade plants produce the tritium (at essentially the same cost as 239Pu), and then it is so much waiting around for it to decay, ('bout 13.5year Half life for 3H you could amuse yourself with a long line of cats in boxes I s'pose, currently they are obtaining the material as they swap out the boost Tritium out of Primaries of existing weapons, and also from the stock produced earlier.
I think it can also be produced with varying success From 6Li fast fission, but then again Lithium 6 is a beautiful fusion fuel in itself.
It is also one of the most desirable systems for a theoretical Ram Scoop system, and would be perfect for Interplantetary system runs due to its stability. the only problem is that it is not the easiest reaction to set off, DT and DD reactions are better, but once we get a longer burntime we may also be able to increase Plasma Energy
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Post by furi on Jun 21, 2007 11:57:47 GMT -4
Yup, Covalent SPONCH molecules pretty much defines Organic (as long as it contains C), just noting that on a power delivery system through atmosphere there does tend to be an awful lot of these due to the Organic Exhalation and Reactions, of course an awful lot of H+ H2 and N- N2 O- O2 O3 CO2 H2 S H2O in the Atmosphere due to both Organic and inorganic reactions, (it is just that they tend also to bound into organic chemistry that I referred to them as organic nuclei), and they also have a very nice Xray capture and re-emission system (early scaling errors in measurement Nuclear Fis & Fus weapons were caused (not solely) by the Re-emission of XRay bands being re-emitted in Visible Band from Nitrogen) although many Nuclei will Capture the EM and re emit Light Nuclei are better He Ne Ar (and SPONCH like to form gasses and vapours)
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Post by furi on Jun 20, 2007 6:12:54 GMT -4
In the past, the call was for building solar panels or solar generators and beaming the electricity down to Earth in the form of microwaves where it could be converted back to electricity. I personally believe this idea was flawed from the start due to uncertain effects both on the Van Allen belt and the ozone layer (as well as our atmosphere).As far as I know none of these would have any affect on a Microwave beam. Microwaves are just short radio waves and so there would be little interaction with the atmosphere and none with the VA Belts. Microwave beams are used quite extensively in the Telecomunications industry. I think one of the I. Robot stories deals with a satellite that does that as well (Reason with the QT1 robot) As long the EMR comes in reasonably perpendicular it shouldn't be affected by refraction/propagation effects, ideally the beam would need to be coherent to reduce losses due to divergence, and Freq:power would pretty much using the highest deliverable frequency, Maybe if Xray Laser Technology (Xasers maybe?) develops at a decent rate it might have possibilities of a feasible power generator, however... After a certain Power/Frequency, this wonderful delivery source will start to get absorbed and re-emitted by atmospheric Nuclei, Carbon Oxygen and Nitrogen (Damn organic chemicals) like nothing better than capturing EM over a certain Freq and Power and re-emitting it at a longer wavelength this will cause big probs with the Receiving mechanism and a whole lot of other Light related probs, Plus which Government or organisation has the reputation to be trusted with a multi GW orbital X ray Laser, Maybe SPECTRE You could use satellite power production together with a Lens array I suppose (Kim Stanley Robinson's Soletta for Martian Terraforming springs to mid), however After the success of the START test Reactor and the progress towards the Megaamepere reactor in France, I think that other than supplemental He 3 or Li Capture, Satellite power by time it is developed whilst fantastic would be redundant for Terran supplies, but at lower power rates could save valuable Satellite Power supply or source, allowing a Station to be free of Mass Power generation. As for the Stations just have a nice Habitation and use a non atmospheric craft to shuttle workers and techs around the various 0g micro-g production facilities without the need for excessive EVA . (Damn I really should trim my posts)
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Post by furi on Dec 7, 2007 10:53:20 GMT -4
For serious arteriosclerosis, head to TeessideMmmm Parmo (Drool), you are now making me Hungry, possibly might have to get one tonight. a good deep fried pizza and chips or meat/potato pie fritter is fantastic after a session. I did stumble (literally) into a kebabshop that would fritter you dirty-kebab for you (including all the green gunk and sauce). =^..^= Parmo with Mushrooms and Onion for me tonight definately
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Post by furi on Oct 15, 2007 5:35:28 GMT -4
Would that also mean that non Visible spectrum images taken from HST/Probes/Sattelites that are shifted in to visual Range cannot be accepted as evidence?
e.g. X-ray Photography of the Sun shifted into pretty green spectrum
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Post by furi on Oct 10, 2007 15:42:06 GMT -4
looking at the Sov LM it seems to have a few correlations to the Mirkin LM, it isn't aerodynamic (well DUH!) the landsing pads and support seem to be similar down facing windows (for landing as opposed to looking at stars)
was it staged primarily from design?
For some strange reason I have never worked out where the LM couldn't have worked argument ever arose. seems perfectly feasible to me (but then I also believe in such things as Human accelerated Global warming and think that the chemtrail theory is a pile of dingos kidneys)
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Post by furi on Oct 10, 2007 20:08:43 GMT -4
Atmospheric Extinction. I will have to save that term up. both because it is a wonderful hyperbolae not representing even the remotest sense of its interpretation, and also because it is a Humpty-Dumpty phrase.
by the definition of 'you cannae see stars' would indicate light pollution, MEH!, atmospheric extinction as a phrase would indicate the poisoning of the lower atmosphere to permit either further evolution or an extinction event for current life forms. maybe I am just being to literal
"ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!!twelve! Atmosphric extinction its re3l, bu7 6108al w4rming 15 a p1l3 of h0r535h17"</numpty>
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Post by furi on Sept 5, 2007 6:15:14 GMT -4
The sand pilots used to use Tractors with solid metal slotted wheels on the beaches in the Northwest (all those shifting sands) both for mapping the quicksand and also for towing and rescue, good low ground pressure, and increased ground traction area.
I also recall seeing pictures of a VERY large slotted (well more like blades really) tracked vehicle in the bay that was used as a ferry service across the sands at Low or rising tide, can't remember where in Morecambe bay it was though.
Seems also that a mesh would offer no issues with the regolith, might provide better overall traction, and would probably be the best weight soution as well
OT Morecambe bay for the Bio Energy and protein generation Faqctory of the future YAY! and a similar generation point for Primordial soup to become life (I know the bay isn't That old but is a perfect breeding ground for evolution and specialisation) also good for depopulating Cockle pickers that didn't understand that the VERY loud Siren you here is an instruction to Head as fast as you can to the shore.
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Post by furi on Sept 3, 2007 10:02:03 GMT -4
Wi' all o' tha' punc'uation I'm goin' t' 'ave t' start talkin' proper, Youse lot 'ave been a pinchin' all o' ma 'postrophes, 'Ow am I s'pose t' talk with all o' these 'ere possessives types usin' up ma 'postrophe ration?
Eeh by 'eck a right bloomin' 'postrophe nutter you, is tha a member o' t' pedants' society by any chance?
yes, I might have misused a couple of them but Hey themses are my apostrophes' dam'it
don't for get Proper use of Capitals and Not using Proper Case (something Which I Am Very Guilty Of) Capitalsation is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse.", and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse."
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Post by furi on Sept 3, 2007 10:23:51 GMT -4
Most of the anti-HB group are not arguing to convince the HBs, but to present the facts to the wider audience: The fence-sitters, the people who have heard some of the HB claims but not the counter-arguments. If the HB winds up making himself look foolish, so much the better. Fred That is pretty much why I do it, there are so many rational people that I know now from which I hear "I used to belive it was real, but now I don't know, I mean look at the evidence such as {Random HB Crock Here}." Which is normally a cue for a serious discussion about the nature of reality (there is a bet between a couple of people to see if I can go a night at the pub without discussing science / technology or cats(not a chance)). The other is to try and see if the HB tie themselves up by the neccesary untying of physical nature of the universe for them to get the theory to work, that way the fence sitters normally come firmly down as looking at these arguments as "A bit o' a larf", and with a Giant Super Double Heart Attack inducing portion of extra luck with luck sprinkles and some lucky sauce, you might get an HB to suffer a BFOTO and progress elsewhere with their newfound freedom.
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