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Post by inconceivable on May 28, 2008 23:57:57 GMT -4
Yes, If no one can prove there was a race. Such as simple comparing history text books from USSR for example, than it must been reality a joint venture and collaborate effort to moon for none other purpose than for monies and prides.
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Post by inconceivable on May 28, 2008 23:28:20 GMT -4
Does anyone know anyone working on ORION? If like Apollo their should be lots of monies being funneled into the private sector. I know of no one making parts for ORION. Sounds like ORION will be highly compartmentalised just like Apollo? No?
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Post by inconceivable on May 28, 2008 23:00:55 GMT -4
In the USSR do their history books teach that they were in a race to the moon with the USA? Why haven't the USSR made a rocket to land a cosmo on the moon by now?
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Post by inconceivable on May 28, 2008 21:54:48 GMT -4
I still not sure about the race between the USA and USSR to go to the moon. Why would they even agree to race to the moon? Was there any formal agreement? Still don't buy it. There must have been something else going on. Why did the USSR just give up anyway? Is there a race now that Bush has announced going to the moon. No.
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Post by inconceivable on May 21, 2008 21:27:59 GMT -4
I've just never seen these pictures before. Are they FAKE? Check out the other section called Apollo Insider where they show show the communications aspect. Never seen those vehicles before either. Any references on those? Wiei3
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Post by inconceivable on May 19, 2008 20:49:47 GMT -4
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Post by inconceivable on May 5, 2008 13:29:13 GMT -4
Many people do indeed liken the huge cinder cones of Manuna Kea to the moon. Optically.
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Post by inconceivable on May 5, 2008 11:34:05 GMT -4
It is known that NASA was there testing the lunar rover because it is so similar. It is a very isolated and remote area if they were to stage Apollo. One of the clearest, driest and most pitch black places on Earth. And there was already an army military base there. I would say that they would to have had to stop operations around 1973 because that is when seismic activity made the area unsafe. Consequently erupting in 1975.
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Post by inconceivable on Apr 29, 2008 15:43:50 GMT -4
The Russians seem to have been more cooperative with NASA during the cold war than people think. Remember Apollo-Soyuz. That project was being put together prior to Apollo 17.
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Post by inconceivable on Apr 24, 2008 15:06:56 GMT -4
The proof that LLREs are on the moon reflecting laser light back to earth is a subject that concerns me. Three missions had LLREs. Apollo 11, Apollo 14 and Apollo 15. Could they have been put there by unmanned satellites?
Apollo 11 for example was preceded by two Ranger crafts. Ranger 6 and Ranger 8 both impacted into the Mare Tranquillitatis prior to Apollo 11 landing.
Apollo 14 for example was preceded by Ranger 7.
The third LLRE on the moon was from Apollo 15 which incidentally landed in the Mare Imbrium. The Laser Reflector would have been the unmanned Lunakhod 1. Which was also in the Mare Imbrium. Considering the USSR and USA were cooperative.
Also the earlier Rangers were designed with capsules that would withstand impacts into the lunar surface and to return data back to Earth. (Seismometer)
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Post by inconceivable on Apr 23, 2008 10:17:10 GMT -4
Wiring harnesses back then were basically wound on huge boards manually. There are a lot of variables that could affect it's quality in this process. Not to mention the installation with crimping, and installing wire ties.
I was just giving a hypothetical in lue of the thread title. If I was to find any reason for a hoax I would have gone with the cracked wiring being a grave issue. The LEM seemed too risky and untested and compounded with wiring issues. I would have sent miltary personnel in their places as the original astronauts were of celebrity status. That way if anything went wrong the Nasa astronauts would still be alive. If then any missing pieces of footage and photos could be reshot and edited. During the earlier Apollo missions the cracking of the wiring insulation was noted.
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Post by inconceivable on Apr 22, 2008 23:02:44 GMT -4
It was an issue that was never resolved but the risk was seen as acceptable.
What do you mean by power up? Were the LEMs batteries not connected to the wiring until after launch?
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Post by inconceivable on Apr 22, 2008 18:24:06 GMT -4
The whole problem was the wiring. Most of the wiring at this time particularly around 1968 and prior was plagued with cracking. It was too costly to replace. And these problems with the cracked wiring were never identified. This posed a great problem in the pure oxygen environment of the time. Especially in the LEM which was kept in pure O2 even during launch. The wiring needed to be Teflon coated in this pure 02 environment. Replacement of these harnesses was too costly.
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Post by inconceivable on Nov 19, 2007 20:03:31 GMT -4
Since the Disclosure Project it seems a lot more people are coming forward.
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Post by inconceivable on Apr 3, 2008 20:34:30 GMT -4
I think Mauna Loa, Hawaii looks like the moon. Around Saddle Road. In between Mauna Kea and Mauna Loa. The observatory on Mauna Kea would be a good place to shine a fake (sun)light down on the lava blanketed pass. Pretty isolated place also. Might work.
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