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Post by gillianren on Mar 26, 2007 23:07:16 GMT -4
I aim to please, I guess.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Apr 9, 2007 2:29:04 GMT -4
Instead of "Christ has Risen" it could have been a mistranslation of biblical scripture. Instead, it could have originally been "Christ has raisins".
Meals were often eaten with raisins and dried grapes were common during those times. It would have been regarded as a call to consume the body of Christ to sprinkle the corps with dried grapes.
I had to add that second paragraph. Otherwise you might think I was REALLY sick.
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Post by gillianren on Apr 9, 2007 3:31:35 GMT -4
. . . Raisins and dried grapes . . . . I allow this to stand for itself.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Apr 18, 2007 16:41:05 GMT -4
Here is another thought. If Jesus Christ's body was or was not ingested it still may stand that this idea has been part of our psyche in Western Civilization. This may explain the origins of the expression "Holly S***!"
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Post by donnieb on Apr 18, 2007 17:46:30 GMT -4
An earlier poster touched on this, but I don't think the implications were fully explored. I'm going to assert that a large fraction (if not all) of Jesus' followers did, and continue to, eat his flesh. According to the Roman Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation (which is still canon as far as I know * ), during the sacrament of Communion (the Eucharist), the wine and bread are literally, actually, converted into the blood and body of Christ. Not just symbolically; actually. Anyone who has taken Communion as a Catholic has (if they take their faith seriously) eaten the body of Jesus. So whether or not the Apostles got the party started on Easter Sunday, there's been a whole lot of Jesus noshing over the years. (Of course, not all Christians accept transubstantiation, but considering the number of RC communicants over the last two millennia it seems likely they've come close to polishing off the giblets by now.) * The Catholic Encyclopedia seems to agree: www.newadvent.org/cathen/05573a.htm
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Post by gillianren on Apr 18, 2007 19:03:49 GMT -4
I know I was taught transubstantiation in Catholic Sunday school in the '80s.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Apr 19, 2007 15:14:05 GMT -4
Every Sunday the body of Christ is literally eaten all over the world. So this whole idea is not too shocking.
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Post by LunarOrbit on Apr 19, 2007 15:19:28 GMT -4
Literally eaten? Literally? Really? Who knew one human male body not only contained enough edible material to feed so many people, but that it could be preserved for almost 2000 years.
And I don't buy into the claim that communion bread and wine are literally turned into the body of Christ, I'm sorry. Symbolically maybe, but not literally. Look at it under a microscope and it will still be bread and wine.
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Post by Jason on Apr 19, 2007 15:30:25 GMT -4
Aren't you guys done with your "mocking the silly Christians" thread yet?
When are you going to start the "mocking the silly Muslims" thread?
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Post by LunarOrbit on Apr 19, 2007 15:55:24 GMT -4
How about just dropping the mocking entirely?
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Post by Jason on Apr 19, 2007 15:58:07 GMT -4
Yes, you could do that too.
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Post by Retrograde on Apr 19, 2007 16:17:59 GMT -4
How about just dropping the mocking entirely? If his track record elsewhere is any indication, he will keep testing the limits until he finds them.
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Post by Bill Thompson on Apr 19, 2007 18:53:21 GMT -4
Literally eaten? Literally? Really? Several Christian sects say that, yes, when the bread and wine are blessed in a service it does, truly, become the literal body and blood of Jesus Christ. Not symbolic. Literal.
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Post by gillianren on Apr 19, 2007 22:14:53 GMT -4
Literally eaten? Literally? Really? Who knew one human male body not only contained enough edible material to feed so many people, but that it could be preserved for almost 2000 years. And I don't buy into the claim that communion bread and wine are literally turned into the body of Christ, I'm sorry. Symbolically maybe, but not literally. Look at it under a microscope and it will still be bread and wine. It's a matter of Catholic doctrine that it is, and it's one of the (many) reasons for the split between Catholics and Protestants 400 years ago.
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Post by Retrograde on Apr 19, 2007 23:11:12 GMT -4
Bill Thompson, do not send me PMs until your maturity level has improved by a factor of at least ten.
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