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Post by margamatix on Sept 2, 2005 18:41:51 GMT -4
So what does "trolling" in this context mean? Could someone provide me with a reference to a thread in which this "trolling" occurred?
For a new member, you seem very up-to-speed.
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Post by margamatix on Sept 2, 2005 17:36:33 GMT -4
perhaps you didn`t read that reply either  I read every message posted on this forum. I swear before almighty God that I read every message posted on this forum. Please do not be hurt and upset if yours was one of the messages I did not have the time to reply to. |
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Post by margamatix on Sept 2, 2005 17:13:26 GMT -4
You may not think you're trolling, but your actions and those of a true troll are in many ways indistinguishable. Well, I have noticed from the "banned users" thread elsewhere on this forum, that "troll" seems to mean "person who believes that Apollo is a hoax", which makes me wonder what kind of "forum" ApolloHoax.com actually is. |
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Post by margamatix on Sept 2, 2005 16:50:13 GMT -4
Or........he`s B.S. which is why there are no replies, ......(yeah,yeah,,,,,,just joking)  I was wondering how long it would be before someone suggested that. Rocketdad drew your attention to my website so you know what I do for a living. Although I no longer drive to Russia, I am still away from home for several days (and sometimes several weeks) at a time, during which times I have no internet access, and am therefore unable to read or reply to threads on this or any other forum.When I am at home, I always look in to this forum: I read every post, and try to reply to as many as I can, but I have a wife and two young children who are more deserving of my time and attention. So I apologise if I do not reply to everyone who asks a question of me. If you want to pay me what I earn driving a truck, I will quite happily sit at my PC all week, chewing the fat with you. Until then, I will simply have to carry on as best I can. I am not here "trolling". I genuinely believe the whole thing was faked. This is a forum- a place for the exchange of differing opinions- and I am entitled to my opinion. |
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Post by margamatix on Aug 31, 2005 18:15:18 GMT -4
To say "I am a scientist and therefore my opinion on the moon landings is worth more than yours" is akin to saying "I am a priest and therefore my opinion on the existence of God is worth more than yours" I think this goes to the root of the problem. You do not understand the difference between objectively verifiable evidence and simple belief so you paint a false dichotomy. I’ll make a more appropriate dichotomy based on what is occurring in this forum. An expert scientist or engineer with experience in a relevant area of knowledge would demonstrate that he had examined the evidence surrounding an event, applied that evidence to the possible theories to explain an event, come to a most likely explanation, made this work available for criticism from recognized experts and appropriately revised the work according to this criticism. This is compared to the approach you are using “I believe it to be this way and one opinion is as valid as another.” Margamatix, don’t you see the difference in these two approaches? Can’t you see why Jay, Bob and others command respect in this forum? Are you going to continue insisting that there is no such thing as expert opinion? With all due respect, I disagree with you. There is no proof whatsoever that the moon landings happened. Belief in Apollo is a faith, nothing more and nothing less. |
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Post by margamatix on Aug 31, 2005 16:49:53 GMT -4
"Photographic experts who were consulted declared that none of the negatives had been tampered with, there was no evidence of double exposures, and that a slight blurring of one of the fairies in photo number one indicated that the fairy was moving during the exposure of 1/50 or 1/100 second". Source www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/doyle.htmSo much for "experts"!  |
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Post by margamatix on Aug 31, 2005 16:14:46 GMT -4
To say "I am a scientist and therefore my opinion on the moon landings is worth more than yours" is akin to saying "I am a priest and therefore my opinion on the existence of God is worth more than yours"
Scientists believed wholeheartedly in the Cottingley fairies.
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Post by margamatix on Sept 2, 2005 17:27:41 GMT -4
My mom and I spent a couple weeks reading about Scam-Baiting the nigerians. Off-topic, I know, but I am a scam-baiter, and had a 419 scammer drive to Lagos airport just last weekend to collect "Mr Henry Egg". Mr Egg didn't turn up! More info on scam-baiting here- www.419eater.com/html/baiting.htmIt truly is the most fascinating and addictive interactive internet sport available. |
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Post by margamatix on Aug 29, 2005 15:45:30 GMT -4
Does Sibrel take the same stance as margamatrix? . Hello politik and welcome to the forum. I can't speak for Bart Sibrel, although you can email him through his website if you wish to. It's fair to say that Sibrel believes, as I do, that the Apollo missions never happened- that the footage was all faked and that man has never walked on the moon. It has been suggested that Sibrel takes this stance for mercenary reasons, since he is a film-maker who sells videos.No-one has yet been able to suggest any ulterior motive for my beliefs, largely because there isn't one. All I would ask is that you view the evidence with an open mind, and decide for yourself. Once again, welcome to the forum. |
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Post by margamatix on Aug 29, 2005 17:48:00 GMT -4
Thanks for the link, although I couldn't hear anything that could remotely be described as "screaming"
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Post by margamatix on Aug 29, 2005 17:28:38 GMT -4
That is exactly what Bart Sibrel did... those were his last words before Aldrin punched him. Evidence? |
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Post by margamatix on Aug 29, 2005 17:05:54 GMT -4
and screaming at you that you're a liar and a coward and a thief, Evidence? |
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Post by margamatix on Aug 29, 2005 14:17:20 GMT -4
You have found one context in which Armstrong did not want to talk about Apollo. Now explain all the other contexts in which he did. Bill Kaysing once said "If my theories are false, then any of the Apollo astronauts, with their first-hand knowledge and experience, would be able to destroy them within five minutes" You are (hypothetically) expostulating the thesis that I have not driven from the UK to Russia. Let's meet on prime-time TV. I will destroy your argument within five minutes. Buzz Aldrin and Bill Kaysing agreed to meet on prime-time TV to discuss Kaysing's theory that the moon landings were faked. I believe the presenter was called Truman Lafayette or something similar. Come the day, Aldrin failed to show up. Kaysing and Lafayette had to do the show without him. |
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Post by margamatix on Aug 29, 2005 12:47:43 GMT -4
This is also not intended to be an ad hominem on Margamatix or anyone else – if it comes across that way, I apologise in advance. It doesn't come across that way, so apologies unneccessary. Here we go then............... On his very first page, there’s a photo of Margamatix allegedly negotiating with a policeman. There’s so much wrong with this photo, I don’t know where to start. But the most obvious problem is – who took the photo ? My girlfriend at the time. He never mentions anyone accompanying him on his journeys, therefore he must have been alone. Non- sequitur. I have never said that I have brown hair, but this does not mean that I do not have brown hair. I know trucks can travel a few hundred miles the length of the UK, and maybe even across Europe, but Russia is a whole lot further away – it just can’t be done. Vehicles from many different countries have driven to Russia. Anybody who has is quite happy to talk about it. In fact, you can't get them to shut up about it.- Unlike Neil "don't mention the moon" Armstrong. Margamatix claims that the Russia missions stopped in 1998. Seven years have passed without a UK-Russia journey. Why ? If we had the technology then, surely we must still have it now ? Read it again. Many trucks still travel from the UK to Russia. I stopped going there because I became a father, and could not justify doing such a dangerous job any longer. Some of the photos on his site are suspiciously well framed – they were obviously posed in a studio. Would I have any interest in falsifying such a trip? Quote – “during the winter, temperatures often drop to -40 degrees Celsius.” Human beings can not survive these temperatures, therefore the Russia missions were fake. Russia has a population of over 200 million, the vast majority of whom have no trouble surviving the winter. What is the population of the moon? Margamatix claims that summers in Russia are very warm, and winters extremely cold. No camera could cope with such a range of temperatures, yet his site carries photos purportedly taken in both summer and winter. Film does not melt at 40 degrees celsius, although I have lost films which snapped in the camera at minus 40, so I would agree that this is below the minimum temperature for the use of film. He states “roads are in very poor condition” but includes one photo on page 3 of a straight, wide road, with very little traffic and no obvious road defects. This type of inconsistency must have been deliberately introduced by whistleblowers to alert the public to the Russia missions scam. On page 3 there’s a photo of a big truck crash, and Margamatix himself says that there were many more accidents. It is obvious that truck technology was not up to the job at that time, and the authorities knew it. Therefore they faked the Russia missions. There were loads of accidents. Here's one of mine  Lots of people died doing the job. Whether this means that the technology was "not up to the job" is open to debate. On page 4 there’s an episode about two dead chickens talking to each other. Live chickens can not talk to each other, let alone dead ones, therefore the Russia missions were faked. Finally, we come to the one point where a small part of my website has something in common with NASA's claims............. It was a joke! |
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Post by margamatix on Aug 29, 2005 12:20:18 GMT -4
I'm a pretty large guy (6'2", 245 lbs or 188 cm, 111 kg or almost 18 stone for you UK people). Suppose I politely asked margamatix for an interview on truck driving, then cornered him and started screaming at him in front of his family to swear on a Bible that he actually drove there, and called him liar and a thief? Surely he wouldn't take offense if he had actually done it... No, I wouldn't. I swear before almighty God that i have driven from the UK to Russia on several occasions. I swear on my children's eyes that I have driven from the UK to Russia on several occasions. If it's not a problem for me, then what problem do Neil and Buzz have with it? |
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