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Post by nomuse on Jul 15, 2007 19:39:33 GMT -4
Can we split off a "Genocide" thread to OT, please? This is leading us astray from DU, and that in itself was barely on-topic for "large Scale Science Fraud."
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Post by 3onthetree on Jul 16, 2007 0:54:53 GMT -4
I'm talking about how the Middle East is central to US strategic planning now as it was in the cold war. I may have used an unfortunate term in global dominance . www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB78/essay.htmDepleted Uranium meets the criteria, just think of it as the backdoor WMD. I can give you an example, remember those British SAS troopers going around dressed as Arabs shooting at people. What a stuff up eh, getting nabbed as well. The Jailbreak was hilarious part with this comment from the MOD. ;D www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/09/20/wirq20.xmlWhere does the shrub make the distinction? Sounds like a Duck, swims like a Duck, taint no Emu. The main ethnic group targeted would be Iraqi.
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Post by 3onthetree on Jul 16, 2007 1:13:33 GMT -4
Can we split off a "Genocide" thread to OT, please? This is leading us astray from DU, and that in itself was barely on-topic for "large Scale Science Fraud." We'll be back on topic as soon as a DU defender cites anything that makes DU look like the Banana flavoured Fairy Floss you describe.
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Post by nomuse on Jul 16, 2007 1:24:51 GMT -4
What part of "Heavy-metal toxicity, pyrophoric, weak alpha emitter" don't you understand. Yes, the stuff is hazardous. But so is gasoline. So is lead. So is asbestos. Compared to, say, Sarin gas it makes a damned poor WMD.
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Post by Grand Lunar on Jul 16, 2007 7:57:11 GMT -4
Can we split off a "Genocide" thread to OT, please? This is leading us astray from DU, and that in itself was barely on-topic for "large Scale Science Fraud." We'll be back on topic as soon as a DU defender cites anything that makes DU look like the Banana flavoured Fairy Floss you describe. No one has said anything of the sort. DU is a health hazard, no question. But it's nowhere near the method of genocide you make it out to be. As Nomuse said, DU is not so good as a WMD. It's rather poor compared to other forms of WMDs, such as chemical gases, diseases, or dirty bombs that use U-235 or plutonium, or a full blown nuclear device. I'm still wondering, where is the science fraud in all this? The data about the properties of DU are known. The only fraud is when one group makes it out as you do; something that can lead to genocide. There are easier ways to do such.
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Post by sts60 on Jul 16, 2007 9:08:54 GMT -4
[post deleted - I don't have time to get back into this]
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furi
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Post by furi on Jul 16, 2007 15:40:14 GMT -4
Sorry for bringing up DU as a Genocide thing, as previously stated I believe I got cross-threaded,no-one has denied DU is a Hazard, but as previously stated radiologically is probably the least of your worries (would rather have a APDS DU round as an ornament than drop it on my foot). However the naming of DU as a WMD is even more preposterous than some of the bizarre methods of how to make a working nuke from spent DU munitions I have heard (first get hold of a fast breeder reactor and a full series of nuclear enrichment plants, gosh so simple) if I was going to use radioisotopes to affect an area, I would probably choose radioactive Alkali/Alkaline halide salts for biological contamination something with a good take up Tritium or phosphorus compound would be damn funky as well , but for a general interdictive purpose would choose a good hi energy neutron emitter, tantalum or cobalt salts spring to mind (gold is just too damned expensive), the strategy of months years or decades would be the primary dictator of material choice. but if I just wanted to cause acute localised poisoning would probably choose a nice chemical agent probably a nerve agent but a good cumulative fat soluble compound could work wonders as well, given the theatres history would take a weak Sarin generation chemical and just allow it to be blamed on internal warfare or any herbicide locally used. Biological agents are too unpredictable unless keyed to a previously administered chemical trigger but for all other purposes inert (when they get that bit right will be a brown trouser factor greater than living in pre INF Europe)
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