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Post by LunarOrbit on Jan 23, 2006 19:54:28 GMT -4
Really? I thought all of the missions only had one EVA camera.
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Post by Bob B. on Jan 23, 2006 19:55:34 GMT -4
Seriously, are you really that stupid? There was one camera per mission... if one astronaut is using it then the other won't have one. There was only one camera used during the Apollo 11 EVA. I think all the subsequent missions had two cameras, thus there are many photos showing astronauts with their chest mounted cameras. Moon Man just happened to pick photos from the mission that had just the one camera. Also note, the cameras could easily be removed. So even some of the latter missions may include pictures of astronauts without their cameras.
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Post by JayUtah on Jan 23, 2006 19:57:08 GMT -4
Notice the white cable on the dune buggy..? The same white cable as was buried by the flag...
Yeah, because every white cable is always exactly like every other white cable.
Notice the back is below the top of his head..?
So?
compare it to any other pic..hahaha!
And this would prove... ?
notice his head is perfectly betwenn mountINS WHEN THISA PIC WAS TAKEN...HAHAHA!
So?
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Post by Bob B. on Jan 23, 2006 20:01:39 GMT -4
Notice the white cable on the dune buggy..? The same white cable as was buried by the flag in the previous picture I pointed out to you peeps..? Nope, just another cable. Now you're just getting silly. Notice the back is below the top of his head..? compare it to any other pic..hahaha! Examples please? May I also suggest you give us the NASA identification number of all these photos you're using.
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Post by bughead on Jan 23, 2006 20:01:57 GMT -4
Hey moonman, are you going to bother giving us the catalog number for these pictures? 'Cuz if not, then it's really hard for us to go to the archives and check the scans.
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Post by JayUtah on Jan 23, 2006 20:04:33 GMT -4
Now you're just getting silly.
"Trollish" is the word you're looking for.
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Post by gwiz on Jan 24, 2006 5:00:09 GMT -4
Blow this picture up and follow the unburied cable to the right of the flag...Hahaha! It's the cable from the LM to the TV camera, which by this stage in the EVA had been moved from its position on the LM and set up on a tripod to give a broader view.
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Post by Bob B. on Jan 24, 2006 10:12:27 GMT -4
Blow up the flag and explain why there is a piece of the flag hanging off on the left side where the stripes are...hahaha! Because there are wrinkles in the fabric causing part of the material to stick out when viewed from that particular angle. Here is an isolated view of the flag from the photo you posted (AS11-40-5905): www.braeunig.us/pics/as11-40-5905.jpgHere is another view of the flag from AS11-40-5875: www.braeunig.us/pics/as11-40-5875.jpgIt is pretty clear the flag has a bunch of creases in it from being folded up in storage. It is just a wrinkled flag, nothing more. Seriously Moon Man, think a minute about what you are saying here. The director wants to take a picture of a flag, but then gets the idea to attach an additional piece of fabric to the edge just to stick out and look funny. What kind of nitwit would do such a thing and to what end? Before you post such nonsense in the future, please stop to think if your claim even makes practical sense. EDIT: modified links
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Post by Bob B. on Jan 24, 2006 15:45:56 GMT -4
Moon Man,
This thread was created for you to present your case regarding the Apollo photographs, which you did. We where then to provide our refutations of your claims, which we did. It was my understanding we were then to follow with a discussion regarding the claims/refutations.
Instead you returned to the forum after a two month hiatus, totally ignore all the previously posted refutations, and begin posting new claims. This is in violation of the grounds rules you agreed to abide by.
Please stop posting new stuff and address the issues already on the table.
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Post by twinstead on Jan 24, 2006 15:52:45 GMT -4
Instead you returned to the forum after a two month hiatus, totally ignore all the previously posted refutations, and begin posting new claims. Don't you know that if you ignore refutations, they will just go away?
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Post by hplasm on Jan 24, 2006 20:20:36 GMT -4
No, you need to supplement it with a cream or lotion, or else you risk a rash of rebuttals
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Post by Moon Man on Jan 26, 2006 18:22:17 GMT -4
Notice the white cable on the dune buggy..? The same white cable as was buried by the flag...Yeah, because every white cable is always exactly like every other white cable. Notice the back is below the top of his head..?So? compare it to any other pic..hahaha!And this would prove... ? notice his head is perfectly betwenn mountINS WHEN THISA PIC WAS TAKEN...HAHAHA!So? Hiya folks. The back pack is below is head. Compare that to any other pic,which are all above the astronaughs head. Bob, one of the pics I posted without a camera is from Apollo 17. Follow the transcript log and you will see them both taking pics at times...so where is his camera..? I posted the amount of pics taken on each mission and they amount to one picture being taken every second or so. The Apollo transcript log doesn't support this amount of pics being taken.
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Post by Moon Man on Jan 26, 2006 18:23:43 GMT -4
Blow up the flag and explain why there is a piece of the flag hanging off on the left side where the stripes are...hahaha! Because there are wrinkles in the fabric causing part of the material to stick out when viewed from that particular angle. Here is an isolated view of the flag from the photo you posted (AS11-40-5905): Here is another view of the flag from AS11-40-5875: It is pretty clear the flag has a bunch of creases in it from being folded up in storage. It is just a wrinkled flag, nothing more. Seriously Moon Man, think a minute about what you are saying here. The director wants to take a picture of a flag, but then gets the idea to attach an additional piece of fabric to the edge just to stick out and look funny. What kind of nitwit would do such a thing and to what end? Before you post such nonsense in the future, please stop to think if your claim even makes practical sense. Since the flag is wrinkled how can the be light on both sides of that bend/wringle on the stripes..? You can see shadow on the stars but not on the stripes..haha! whatis creating the shadow on the flag pole..?
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Post by JayUtah on Jan 26, 2006 18:25:30 GMT -4
The back pack is below is head. Compare that to any other pic,which are all above the astronaughs head.
Okay. What does that prove?
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Post by Moon Man on Jan 26, 2006 18:26:43 GMT -4
Why is the moon dust in front of the lander a different colour then to the back of the picture..? Why is there only footprints in the front darker dust and none in the back..? Try and find two footprints that actually match up as if someone was actually walking..? Why is the front facing lander leg visible when it's in shadow..? For example, you cannot see this side of the lander cup at the bottom because it's in shadow. Try and match two footprints...hahaha! Where is his chest mounted camera..? Hahaha! Look at the anntena from the back pack. No white attentana appears on the dune buggy shot posted and the pics are taken on the same mission...lol
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