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Post by graham2001 on Dec 23, 2007 9:37:29 GMT -4
While websurfing I came across a spectacular image of Mons Pico(?) which appears to come from Apollo 15. (See: Pic) However I cannot identify which magazine it came from. Due to the angle of the picture I'm guessing that it was taken from the LM, but am I right?
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Post by graham2001 on Jan 8, 2008 9:05:09 GMT -4
...a Saturn 1b could put both spacecraft into orbit at the same time. Is that fuelled or empty? When this mission was eventually flown as Apollo 9, the combined mass of the two vehicles was 36000 kg. What figure did you use? I didn't actually set the figure, however I have posted a query about the flight result on the developers forum and they are currently looking into it, apparently the masses are right but the thrust of the simulated launcher may be off.
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Post by graham2001 on Jan 5, 2008 9:03:15 GMT -4
The unflown Apollo 2 mission was planned to be a dual launch mission. One Saturn 1b would put the CSM into orbit, while another would put the LM/S-IVb stack into orbit for the CSM to rendezvous with.
Using the Orbiter spaceflight simulator, I was able to see that something I've always suspected was plausible, namely that a Saturn 1b could put both spacecraft into orbit at the same time.
While not a rigorous test it raises in my mind the question of just why the Apollo 2 flight was planned to be a dual launch?
Can anyone help clarify the reasons?
Graham
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Post by graham2001 on Dec 7, 2007 10:14:04 GMT -4
Somebody once said that Mark Gray was working on DVDs of the NASA movies, so I emailed him to see if he wanted to use the indexes, but never heard back. Going by one of his posts here, his anti-spam software probably did the electronic equivalent of shredding my email before he got to see it. I am so glad to hear that such a thing may be occurring, while the DVD's I currently have are interesting, it is appalling that the only way to see NASAs official documentaries are through degraded copies either from the internet in the case of the Apollo 8/9 films mentioned in the OP or through DVD copies of dubious provenance. I would willingly pay good money for a chance to see the films in 'crystal clear' condition.
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Post by graham2001 on Dec 5, 2007 18:44:59 GMT -4
The two cheap sets available through Crazy Clarks are not the same. The first set 'NASA: 50 Years of Space Exploration' (No longer for sale) has a somewhat 'rough' appearance to it's start up. Just footage of John Glenn's second launch and then a menu with five 'unnamed' options per disk. Packaging did not list the contents and the 'blub' was somewhat vague. The second set entitled 'Triumph & Tragedies: NASA 25 Years" (PEL145-PEL149) is much more professional in appearance and actually lists the contents with a proper description of each on the box. But the ability to select an individual film has been lost save through the chapter selection menu. Contents are slightly different though. Vol 1. Freedom 7, Voyage of Friendship 7, Four Days of Gemini. Vol 2. The Eagle Has Landed, Houston We Have A Problem, In The Mountains of the Moon & Nothing So Hidden. Vol 3. On the Shoulders of Giants, The Mission of Apollo-Soyuz, Skylab - The First 40 Days & Four Rooms, Earth View. The remaining two volumes are Space Shuttle related. Despite the changes, the material is still the same degraded footage on all the other cheap sets mentioned. I think that someone out there , perhaps the "Destra Entertainment" who get a mention on the box 'ripped' a set of videos and now license their copies to the low end of the market. I have serious doubts that any of this material has been remastered or obtained from the 'original masters', despite what it says on the copyright statement.
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Post by graham2001 on Dec 4, 2007 1:08:21 GMT -4
Kiwis can currently pick up a box set of five DVDs (Region 0, PAL) which have nine of the films (Gemini 8, Apollo 7, 8, 10, 11, 13, 14, 16, and 17) at The Warehouse for only NZ$18.99, and they include other interesting Aerospace stuff from The Military Channel. They are slightly condensed -- mostly just missing the end credits -- and although not top quality, are better than some of the DVDs around. In (Western Australia) the discount chain Crazy Clarks offers a set of five DVDs released by Payless Entertainment. The set I have is entitled "NASA: 50 Years of Space Exploration", DVDs 1, 2 & 3 cover Apollo & Skylab. They have recently been re-issued with new covers that actually list the contents of each DVD. Quality of the transfers is variable but nothing is unwatchable. DVD 1 has Mercury - Gemini (4/8) & Apollo 11. DVD 2 has Apollo 13, 15, 16, 17 & Apollo-Soyuz DVD 3 has Skylab & some material on the space shuttle. I'll edit this later when I have all the titles for the films featured.
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Post by graham2001 on Dec 1, 2007 20:11:56 GMT -4
You might be interested in more on the Apollo 8 program: <Snip Links> All these can either be streamed or downloaded as MPEGS. Nice find I've actually got several of the other NASA doco's (Apollo 11, 13, 15, 16 & 17) on a cheepo DVD set, but for some reason 8 & 9 don't form part of it.
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Post by graham2001 on Mar 15, 2008 9:41:55 GMT -4
He's not just just hitting the Orbiter Fan Forum either. He's trying to touch base with some other CT peddlers as well: s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/51606/1/Thanks to the people at the JREF forums for bringing this one up. There is a quote in here that sums up just why we have to fight for the integrity of the historical record. If we don't stand up for it, it'll be overwhelmed by a tide of ignorance...
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Post by graham2001 on Feb 26, 2008 7:57:13 GMT -4
No doubt you've heard of the Orbiter Space Flight simulator, I've got a copy on my hard drive which I use to run simulated Apollo Missions (I still haven't left Earth orbit yet ). A Moon Hoax thread has started up and someone is now claiming that only Apollo 11 was faked (to beat the Soviets) but that the other missions were real. This is one version of the Hoax Claim I've never heard before. Anyone else seen this one, and what are the best counter arguements?
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Post by graham2001 on Dec 7, 2007 20:44:47 GMT -4
Incidentally I finally had someone ask what caused the orange glow surrounding the recently departed Saturn 1C and 2 interstage segment in the commonly seen Saturn V launch film. They were quite surprised to learn that the J-2 engines were actually firing at the time, and the orange glow was the effect of the J-2 plume impinging upon the jettisoned equipment. I've always thought that was the case when I've looked at that footage, but I was never entirely sure. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Post by graham2001 on Nov 10, 2007 4:53:54 GMT -4
Thanks for the info on the power profile, I'd actually had a quick look through the [ur=http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19790014808_1979014808.pdf]ASLEP Termination Report[/url](8.8mb) which seemed (to me anyway) to imply that equipment failure on the moon was the primary cause for the shutdowns.
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Post by graham2001 on Oct 10, 2007 11:42:42 GMT -4
I spotted this piece of YouTube fakery on another forum, basically someone ( greenmagoos) has taken NASA footage added 'NiteVision Scope' effect to it and then presented it as ' proof' that the Apollo Missions were faked. www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIp7VDmyoqwWhy on Earth do these people seem to think that faking their own footage improves their case? I've seen the same thing happen amongst the 9/11 Troof crowd.
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Post by graham2001 on Sept 2, 2007 13:57:15 GMT -4
The Dutch papers are referring to the Netherlands / Holland, yes. And around, here media is quite well-documented; recently a new building used for storing audiovisual media (films, TV recordings, audio recordings, CDs, Super 8 amature films etcetera) was opened. If I recall correctly, all of the Dutch news papers keep an archive of their papers as well. And, of course, there is more than one national newspaper in the Netherlands; Kaysing didn't refer to anything specific making things even harder to check. I'd put this in the same category as the claims that Perths major paper 'The West Australian' had a series of letters appear after the moon landing discussing the 'coke bottle' that was 'inserted' into the moon landing footage. The hoaxer is hoping that no one will check out the claim, in the above someone went to the State Library and asked for copies of the relevant papers.
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Post by graham2001 on Jun 28, 2007 10:32:40 GMT -4
And I though my flight in the Grand Canyon was spectacular. This makes it look like peanuts. If this scheme gets off the ground, the Russkies will finally get to the moon. I wish them better luck than last time, here's hoping their ' Zond 9' unmanned dry run goes without a hitch...
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Post by graham2001 on Jun 19, 2007 18:34:03 GMT -4
No. As soon as I saw the words "My granddad had...," I recognized the standard Relative Who Worked for NASA story. Hoax proponents need to get some new material. The person(s) behind the Apollo 20 Hoax footage tried to claim that they were the Command Module Pilot for the mission.
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