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Post by abaddon on Sept 9, 2010 19:19:27 GMT -4
And any other form of bigotry, I hope. No, of course. But Rodin has demonstrated the anti-semitic variety. rodin has clearly revealed his anti-semitic agenda. His arguing the moon hoax is simply the tip of his conspiracy iceberg. He seems to believe that this is a viable method to gain acceptance for his other ideas.
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Post by abaddon on Sept 9, 2010 19:15:03 GMT -4
And now they are going off about there being only a single pair of tracks, which they claim is impossible for a 4 wheeled vehicle, somehow missing that the image of the tracks in the Sahara that they have just been arguing about also only shows a single pair of tracks from what was most probably (since I doubt they have off road segways) a four wheeled vehicle. (we really need one of these LO) You forgot about the lunar segway ;D
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Post by abaddon on Sept 7, 2010 19:12:07 GMT -4
Fetzer sez
Discussing a picture which may be purchased from Fotosearch. Ignoring the fact that the real deal is free, and Fotosearch is not an authority, why would one buy that which is freely available?
The "debate" is rapidly descending into farce.
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Post by abaddon on Sept 7, 2010 17:30:48 GMT -4
Well Fetzer's argument such as it is seems to be simply to say jack White is right and then complain about whatever response Evan Burton makes with lots of capitals and complaints about EB's behaviour. And I also was under the impression that Jack White wasn't going to be taking part in the thread. Fetzer seems to be a bully boy frankly. Only appears?
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Post by abaddon on Sept 6, 2010 16:48:51 GMT -4
There was a thread recently where tape was discussed. People cannot think past gaffer and selotape (or whatever its trade name is). Perhaps people don't pay attention to the many kinds of tape around them. If you pay attention there are many different kinds in common usage every day, all with different properties. From hem tape to plumbers ptfe tape. Not to mention the tittie tape. ;D
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Post by abaddon on Sept 5, 2010 7:31:43 GMT -4
Self adhesive plastic, I think you will find. So one is a layer of plastic with a layer of glue and the other is a layer of plastic with a layer of glue? Sigh. You are going off on a tangent. Try looking at AS11-40-5893 for example. At the top of the frame on the ascent stage you will see some wrinkled panels and an apparently random piece of tape. There are visible gaps as well. (there are many similar shots of the LM in the record) Any HB viewing this will think "this cannot possibly fly". Why? Because they apply their terrestrial experience to a non terrestrial environment. The LM was designed to operate in a vacuum. Sure if you operated it in an atmosphere at speed, then clearly those panels would likely get ripped off. And thats the point. You cannot apply the same reasoning to a vacuum. The HB crowd don't get that.
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Post by abaddon on Sept 4, 2010 9:42:51 GMT -4
After all, if one were to tape a sheet of paper to the outside of your car, then one quick trip down the motorway will rip it off. What are the stickers on a racing car if not sticky tape? Self adhesive plastic, I think you will find.
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Post by abaddon on Sept 4, 2010 4:35:10 GMT -4
On a side note. Pilots and crew have said on TV interviews that some advice given if they ever set off for real was to drop their loads, if they survive keep going east and settle down with a Yak farmer. There would be nothing to come back to. Really? Never heard that before. If ya have a reference I would be most intrigued to read/watch.
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Post by abaddon on Sept 3, 2010 17:02:02 GMT -4
More to the point, I think it's harder to position and apply, especially with tension. I always get the impression that the HB folks think in terms of terrestrial experience. After all, if one were to tape a sheet of paper to the outside of your car, then one quick trip down the motorway will rip it off. They don't seem to comprehend that the radically different environment of space will give rise to very different engineering solutions which, at first glance may appear counter intuitive. Or perhaps they are just potty.
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Post by abaddon on Sept 3, 2010 16:31:52 GMT -4
Been nosing at the dif forum. Seems he is on holiday. Seems he is also aiming the blunderbuss of foot in the mouth at himself. When he gets here it should be interesting. Yeah, or maybe the "ebil joos" got him.
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Post by abaddon on Sept 1, 2010 17:21:12 GMT -4
Looks like they are underway at last. And we have already the first fetzerian Gem: "Evan suggests that, if they were faking these photos, then why not roll a rover into position and create rover tracks? To which I reply, these guys were not rocket scientists and they made mistakes" I must admit this claim makes me mad. The rover was a wheeled vehicle. They could drive it into position. If it was not operational they could push it into position. But no. The HB crew will insist they craned it into position. In the name of all that's holy why? Build all that crane rigging, spend all the money that such a rig would cost when they could have simply pushed it onto the supposed set for free? This claim is, in my opinion, even sillier than the "they went but they found aliens" claim. There is simply no reason to do it.
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Post by abaddon on Sept 1, 2010 17:10:52 GMT -4
Why do HB's like Jack White keep harping on about the appearance of the LM as some sort of proof it was a hoax? The words "IQ" and "room temperature" come to mind... Funny, I was more thinking shoe size.
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Post by abaddon on Sept 1, 2010 16:40:05 GMT -4
It is not easy to follow the debate, when you're not allowed to see the photos discussed. Seconded. You have to wait for Evan to figure out which image it is and post the number. And I really don't feel like registering when it is a closed debate. IMHO it is a tactic simply to make rebuttals more difficult. Dishonest, but what do you expect.
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Post by abaddon on Sept 1, 2010 4:44:38 GMT -4
The one plot device that always gets me shaking my head is when someone gets "phased" and can walk through people, walls, etc. yet they never seem to fall through the floors (example: ST:TNG Season 5 episode "The Next Phase"). Cz Silly. They are wearing shoes with phase resistant soles. ;D
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Post by abaddon on Sept 1, 2010 4:34:25 GMT -4
An extreme example of a PhD who went off the deep end would be Dr. Amy Bishop. One swift google later. Wow, thats pretty far off the deep end. I don't recall that getting much media coverage over here.
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