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Post by astronaut23 on Oct 6, 2010 19:53:14 GMT -4
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_SibrelSibrel believes that the technology of the United States during the era was behind that of the Soviets. He points to a supposed "five-to-one superiority" in man-hours in space held by the Soviets over the US as well as highlighting several Soviet space firsts.[6] The "five-to-one" figure has been strongly challenged, with the Clavius website, a website dedicated to the debunking of the Apollo Moon Landing hoax accusations stating that the Americans had a clear lead in man hours in space by the time Apollo 11 was launched.[7] LOL....thats what this idiot really believes or he's just saying this to make a buck in his stupid movies?
He thinks Voskod was more advanced than all the things Gemini did? And that two Voskod missions gave them a 5-1 advantage over 12 flown Gemini missions. Surely to goodness he's not really that stupid and is just trying to make a buck with his movies is my guess.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voskhod_programmeComparison with Gemini After the first-generation spacecraft Vostok and Mercury had proved the technical feasibility of manned spaceflight, NASA proceeded to build its second-generation capsule, Gemini, which was a completely new design which retained the successful features of Mercury, like the conical shape with a heat shield at the bottom. But several new features were added to Gemini, for example engines strong enough to significantly alter orbit, docking and rendezvous facilities, and provisions for EVA, all of which were essential for practical applications of spaceflight, namely a manned Moon mission. In comparison to that, Voskhod capsules were simply modified Vostok craft, retaining most of Vostok's limitations. In the end, Voskhod turned out to be a dead end and was abandoned after only two manned missions, to be superseded by the much more capable Soyuz.
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Post by astronaut23 on Oct 6, 2010 16:02:56 GMT -4
I've noticed on the Saturn V launch videos that I've watched that at staging and even after there is is still a heck of a whole lot of stuff coming out the back end of the rocket?
What is that? I thought the engines shut completly down at staging and then explosive bolts fired along with separation motors to separate the 1st stage from the 2nd before the 2nd stage engines are fired up to get accelerating again.
Even after staging you can see a whole lot of stuff still coming out of the 1st stage while you can't really even see the 2nd stage engines burning in the same way as the first. What is this?
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Post by astronaut23 on Oct 6, 2010 15:15:06 GMT -4
Oh and look at point 9. I guess Surveyor was skipped by Rodin. I suspect Rodin means a remote control landing of an unmanned LM. Why would they do that the manned LM is more reliable if the LM had been totally automated on Apollo 11 it would have crashed as it was headed right to a boulder field before Neil took over control. The pilot adds reliability. BTW...accord to HB's logic the space shuttle must be a hoax too since they never tested it on auto pilot completely unmanned before STS-1 took off with John Young and Robert Crippen.
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Post by astronaut23 on Oct 6, 2010 15:05:25 GMT -4
Yeah, its a shame that you go on something like you-tube to type in to find an Apollo video and for every legit video you got about 10 stupid suggestions come on the side that talk about the hoax.
And look at even this board how many new messages get posted in the hoax rather than reality.
I just don't understand it myself. Apollo was one of the greatest achievements of all time. And its a disgrace to the 400,000 people who gave their all to make it possible for us to win the race to the moon when people say it was fake.
I can understand it if someone was anti-America they might resent any accomplishment the USA made though.
Its really a shame though because that people would choose to believe the hoax because the reality is so much more interesting. Manned flights to the moon are just awesome and they technology that got us there and how it all works is fascinating stuff.
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Post by astronaut23 on Oct 6, 2010 13:39:59 GMT -4
Welcome to the board, astronaut23. That is a nicely done video. Just so you know I didn't do the video so I'm not taking credit for it. I just found it on youtube. Its what really convinced me of the Apollo authenticity after having got suckered into doubting it.
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Post by astronaut23 on Oct 6, 2010 12:31:38 GMT -4
Never seen the interview, nice. Awesome about how Leonov talks about how foolish the moon hoax crowd is. They were the ones competing against us in the race to the moon and they acknowledge that Apollo was a reality.
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Post by astronaut23 on Oct 6, 2010 11:42:15 GMT -4
The HBs trot out a list of Soviet first after first in space achievements to show how technologically advanced they are... ...but they are incapable of tracking a spacecraft to the Moon! Aparently they conveniently leave out the Gemini program since by the end of Gemini we were way more advanced in what we could do than they were. HB's act like we made some kind of Giant Leap from Mercury to Apollo 11's flight to the moon without anything in between. Its like they don't just ignore what was done in Gemini but they ignore the unmmaned test flights of Apollo along with 7,8,9, and 10.
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Post by astronaut23 on Oct 6, 2010 10:37:05 GMT -4
Talk about a great piece of film comparing the Apollo 14 seq bay footage to a pendulum on Earth and then matching the videos up and showing how it couldn't have been faked on Earth. This is irrefutable proof right here unless you think that not only filmed it in vacuum chamber but also somehow reduced the gravity to 1/6 on earth at the same time on the stage they supposedly filmed it on. www.youtube.com/user/BlisterHiker#p/u/8/01A61jra37o
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Post by astronaut23 on Oct 6, 2010 10:11:16 GMT -4
Wow, talk about idiotic. Isn't it easier to believe the landings are real than all the loopholes you have to jump through to figure out how you could pull off a hoax of this magnitude that would fool all the geologists, people running the tracking stations, and multitudes of other things? If you could land a lander that big on the moon unmanned then why the heck wouldn't you just land manned. Makes no sense really. And where the heck does he even get that it crashed? Talk about stupid. And I'm ashamed to say I got conned by the moon hoax crowd a while back but I'm leaning heavily to-wards it being real since studying more about it and reading the technical things on this board. Bart Sibrel is either badly misinformed or is just trying to make a buck, I'm not sure what his motives are. But is he really stupid as to think he would ever get sent a classified tape showing Apollo being staged. If you did hoax something and you wanted to make sure it was now found out you would destroy the evidence that you did hoax it. But his evidence is dumb anyways. He says they were faking out of a round porthole in the command module but that was the wrong window. The window in the hatch was round but not the one he said they were faking out of the side of the command module. That one was more triangular shaped window. Also in that same video someone said that Armstrong had never done an interview since the Apollo 11 flight and thats a lie. I'm glad the Scientific Equipment Bay pendulum happened on the Apollo 14 mission even though it was unintentional. This is irrefutable proof right here. Its what really convinced me of the genuineness of them being on the real moon. Theres no reasonable explanation of how they could have faked this? Even if they did this in vacuum chamber on earth and slowed down the footage if you speed it up to 200% speed the movement of the astronauts is not realistic so if it was filmed on earth it would have to be done inside a machine that no only created vacuum but lowered the gravity to 1/6 somehow. LOL. www.youtube.com/user/BlisterHiker#p/u/8/01A61jra37o
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