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Post by twinstead on Dec 14, 2006 21:04:06 GMT -4
That's BS. You can watch them fall and time them for yourself. I will second the fact that you didn't go to that link. The 'almost free fall' that we hear ad nauseam by CTs is total garbage, and there is much evidence to support that it is total garbage. Believe what you want, but if you think you can get away with using a totally bogus piece of evidence to support your conspiracy theory you are on the wrong forum
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Post by PhantomWolf on Dec 14, 2006 21:55:06 GMT -4
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Post by reynoldbot on Dec 14, 2006 22:00:57 GMT -4
oh god not this garbage again. If the theories aren't annoying enough, the video is narrated by some high school jackass who adds just enough impetuousness and angst to his performance to make my teeth curl. Moon Man is the worst kind of person: an ignorant loudmouth who thinks he knows something and is too stubborn to be told otherwise.
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Post by 3onthetree on Dec 15, 2006 3:37:55 GMT -4
I agree totally, NIST is full of it.
From NIST.
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Post by lenbrazil on Dec 15, 2006 7:38:50 GMT -4
The operative word in that sentence was "essentially". Nowhere does it say the towers fell at free fall speeds or even 'essentially at free fall speeds'. They are saying that no pauses can been seen in either colapse.
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Post by Moon Man on Dec 15, 2006 15:28:50 GMT -4
The towers had 200,000 lbs of stell in each of them. There was more stell in the lower levels to suppport the weight of the upper floors. As 20-30-40-50-60-70-80 floors has totallt disappeared into dust the building continues to collaspe when there is no weight bearing down on the lower and much stronger floors.
Each floor was 4 feet thick and it's not beliveable or possilbe that the floors would collapse as fast as they did. The interior walls, desks doors etc would've slowed the collapse.
The buildings completely collasped before the dust from the upper floors even hit the ground.
Aluminum planes don't pentetrate through steel.
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Post by reynoldbot on Dec 15, 2006 15:36:56 GMT -4
You'd be surprised what can penetrate what at high speeds.
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Post by Moon Man on Dec 15, 2006 15:55:23 GMT -4
You'd be surprised what can penetrate what at high speeds. I agree. I've seen tornado damage but this is different. Think about it. The buildings completely collapsed before the dust hit the ground. Objects would take up to 10 seconds to fall from the top floors. This was a controlled demo. The top of the one building was falling over and then the building started to collaspe and with no weight bearing down on the top section that was falling it magically collasped too. Ha!
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Post by twinstead on Dec 15, 2006 17:34:11 GMT -4
You'd be surprised what can penetrate what at high speeds. I agree. I've seen tornado damage but this is different. Think about it. The buildings completely collapsed before the dust hit the ground. Objects would take up to 10 seconds to fall from the top floors. This was a controlled demo. The top of the one building was falling over and then the building started to collaspe and with no weight bearing down on the top section that was falling it magically collasped too. Ha! The problem is that other than your imperfect expectations of what should have happened, because of course it just doesn't look right to you, there is absolutely NO further evidence of controlled demo. For example, thousands of microphones were trained on the WTC at the time of collapse. Where are the CD explosions? Have you ever heard a REAL CD before? It's obvious what is going on. The plot must thicken in that respect because now you must suggest some kind of exotic, silent demo charge like super thermate but capable of severing steel vertically instead of burning downwards like thermite/thermate/super thermate/super duper mondo thermate does. I repeat. Unless you can show yourself to be an expert in controlled demolitions, your observations have no bearing on the fact that no evidence of controlled demolitions exist. In addition, the overwhelming majority of experts in controlled demolition who have seen the same videos as you (and have seen the ones that show the buckling at the collapse starting point that is contrary to CD that you obviously can't be bothered to look at) DO NOT think it looks like a controlled demo. Why, oh why exactly should the fact that to YOU it looks like a cd mean anything?
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Post by stutefish on Dec 15, 2006 18:42:55 GMT -4
Clinton was impreached on less evidence
Ironically, Clinton was impeached on less evidence than we have for the Apollo program, and yet Clinton actually did the things he was accused of. By this standard, Apollo must have happened for sure!
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Post by reynoldbot on Dec 16, 2006 2:20:56 GMT -4
I thought this was gonna be a thread about Bush.
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Post by Moon Man on Dec 16, 2006 12:06:55 GMT -4
If you go to the fun stuff link you on the link you provided you will see an interesting link/story. War Plan Red. This was Americas plan to invade Canada, and in particular Sudbury. They were after our nickel mines and moon rocks to fake the moon missions. True story. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Redwww.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=war+plan+red&meta=Even our Mayor did not know about this story, but I did, because I am a historian.
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Post by scooter on Dec 16, 2006 12:43:35 GMT -4
Darn, I thought you were a lawyer...or a rocket scientist. Check the date there...kinda old. And I'm certain it was just a mental exercise on paper, they probably have similar "musings" around about other hypothetical engagements. There's a big difference between "brainstorming" and "warplanning".
You do dig hard, don't you...and don't mind the Navy SEALS down the block, they're just there on leave...
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Post by Ranb on Dec 16, 2006 19:31:31 GMT -4
Aluminum planes don't pentetrate through steel. Copper and lead can penetrate steel. I do it all the time at the rifle range, with subsonic loads too. Lead is much more soft than steel, but not as dense as you. Ranb
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Post by Moon Man on Dec 16, 2006 21:22:48 GMT -4
Darn, I thought you were a lawyer...or a rocket scientist. Check the date there...kinda old. And I'm certain it was just a mental exercise on paper, they probably have similar "musings" around about other hypothetical engagements. There's a big difference between "brainstorming" and "warplanning". You do dig hard, don't you...and don't mind the Navy SEALS down the block, they're just there on leave... I wear many hats my friend. Even a cowboy on some summer weekends.
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