Saturn V rocket needed to be 266 times bigger.

[brotherofthemoon]

bertls said:

Next thing we know he'll be claiming WW2 was a hoax as well.

Well, we all know that the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which ended the war, were complete fakes.

1. The bombs yielded between 15 and 20 kilotons, but didn't leave a gigantic charred blast crater.
2. Supposedly, the bomb dropped on Hiroshima killed 70,000 people outright. Japan discovered "Duck and Cover" in 1929, but for some reason didn't use it here.
3. There's no way you can pack 15,000 tons of explosives into a bomb ten feet long and three feet around.
4. A 500 pound bomb can destroy everything within 20 feet. Therefore, the Little Boy bomb should have flattened everything in a 114 mile radius.
5. The primary cause of death from a nuclear explosions are flashing skeletonizer rays that vaporize people instantly. This didn't happen in Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
6. Most of Hiroshima was flattened, but a building near the center of the explosion survived except for having all it's glass shattered.
7. The Russians built an atomic bomb in about the same amount as time as the Americans, which is completely ridiculous considering their vast technological superiority.
8. The burn shadows caused by the heat of the fireball are almost always non-parallel.
9. The intense heat of the explosion would have melted film for miles around, and yet people were taking photos of the destruction within hours.
10. The radiation caused by the bombs would have created a permanent radioactive bubble around Japan which no one could enter unless shielded by six feet of lead.
11. The bombs themselves were so unstable they would have flown back towards their B-29 and exploded.
12. One of the first Atomic Bomber Prototype Test Planes crashed during testing. The ABPTP was too dangerous too fly, and yet they built more than 4,000 production aircraft!

[Tanalia]

Don't forget:

13. If atomic bombs could be dropped on cities 60 years ago, we would still be dropping them today.
14. Computing power was insufficient to guide the bombs to their targets.

[BertL]

There's one more.

15. I am right and all of you are wrong.

[brotherofthemoon]

More:

16. In a 2003 Gallup poll, 98% of Americans doubted that nuclear weapons even existed.
17. The photos of the destruction are remarkably similar to the 1984 BBC television film Threads, about the effects of a thermonuclear war.
18. No one could see any stars in the sky the night after the bombing.
19. Some of the shadows created by the heat of the fireball aren't completely black.
20. The movement of crewmembers aboard the Atomic Bomb Dropping Plane would have changed it's center off gravity, knocking it off-balance.
21. Many survivors never heard the sound of the explosion, which is completely absurd.
22. If you speed the footage of the blast 4x, it's obviously just a small bomb filmed in extreme close-up.
23. All of the photos taken after the bombing are perfectly framed and exposed.
24. If the bombings were real, Truman would have had General Eisenhower and Robert Oppenheimer killed in a fire for opposing them.
25. A feather dropped from a plane at 30,000 feet would take longer to hit the ground than an atomic bomb.
26. The ABDP had two bomb bays in the center of it's fuselage. There's no way the crew could have accessed the rear compartment with them in the way.
27. The state of technology was so bad in 1945 rifles still had bayonets on them. Are we supposed to believe they could make an atomic bomb?

[Moon Man]

The Sudbury basin was created 1.85 to 2.5 billion years ago by the impact of a massive 10 km-wide meteorite that slammed into the earth's crust at a speed of 75 km per second. The impact had an equivalent energy force of 10 billion Hiroshima bombs and created a band of nickel called the Sudbury Nickel Irruptive. The blast created the world's largest crater which is nearly 200 times the diameter of Meteor Crater in Arizona. The impact produced a red hot rain of glowing glass and shattering and melting rock was blown high above the atmosphere before it fell back to Earth. Over a metre of this hot debris, mostly rock glass, fell in the Thunder Bay area. The last debris to fall was fine dust, and it took as long as a year to fall, scattering a dusty film right around the world. There is also evidence that the region by hit by an asteroid 37 million years ago creating Lake Wanapitei (13,256.80 Hectares). The Precambrian Shield where Sudbury is located is the oldest rock on the North American continent. The rim of the boat shaped basin is 37 miles long and 17 miles wide.

[scooter]

No, it was caused by the impact of a x266 Saturn V returning from it's direct trip to the Moon (darn parachutes failed)! Jeesh, don't you know anything??
(just steering back to topic)

[hplasm]

moonman said:

The Sudbury basin was created 1.85 to 2.5 billion years ago by the impact of a massive 10 km-wide meteorite that slammed into the earth's crust at a speed of 75 km per second. The impact had an equivalent energy force of 10 billion Hiroshima bombs and created a band of nickel called the Sudbury Nickel Irruptive. The blast created the world's largest crater which is nearly 200 times the diameter of Meteor Crater in Arizona. The impact produced a red hot rain of glowing glass and shattering and melting rock was blown high above the atmosphere before it fell back to Earth. Over a metre of this hot debris, mostly rock glass, fell in the Thunder Bay area. The last debris to fall was fine dust, and it took as long as a year to fall, scattering a dusty film right around the world. There is also evidence that the region by hit by an asteroid 37 million years ago creating Lake Wanapitei (13,256.80 Hectares). The Precambrian Shield where Sudbury is located is the oldest rock on the North American continent. The rim of the boat shaped basin is 37 miles long and 17 miles wide.

Thanks for that MM!

It might interest you to know that:-

The last debris to fall was fine dust, and it took as long as a year to fall, scattering a dusty film right around the world.

was probably www.imdb.com/title/tt0052077/

the earliest Siebrel whistleblowing documentary, which was subverted by NASA Disinformationeers many years before NASA existed due to time travel experiments- which also now longer ever took place ( see more BSWbDoc www.imdb.com/title/tt0087910/)

or maybe just www.imdb.com/title/tt0019422/

there's quite a lot of whistleblowing on that too

[Tanalia]

moonman said:

The Sudbury basin was created 1.85 to 2.5 billion years ago by the impact of a massive 10 km-wide meteorite that slammed into the earth's crust at a speed of 75 km per second. The impact had an equivalent energy force of 10 billion Hiroshima bombs and created a band of nickel called the Sudbury Nickel Irruptive. The blast created the world's largest crater which is nearly 200 times the diameter of Meteor Crater in Arizona. The impact produced a red hot rain of glowing glass and shattering and melting rock was blown high above the atmosphere before it fell back to Earth. Over a metre of this hot debris, mostly rock glass, fell in the Thunder Bay area. The last debris to fall was fine dust, and it took as long as a year to fall, scattering a dusty film right around the world. There is also evidence that the region by hit by an asteroid 37 million years ago creating Lake Wanapitei (13,256.80 Hectares). The Precambrian Shield where Sudbury is located is the oldest rock on the North American continent. The rim of the boat shaped basin is 37 miles long and 17 miles wide.

So...you can cut and paste geology information.

What does it have to do with the size of launch vehicles?

[gillianren]

hplasm said:

Disinformationeers

Do we get special hats for that?

[Grand Lunar]

gillianren said:

hplasm said:

Disinformationeers

Do we get special hats for that?

Beanies.

[echnaton]

I want to know whose the leader of the club? It sound like its made for you and me.

[hplasm]

echnaton said:

I want to know whose the leader of the club? It sound like its made for you and me.

B.I.L - L.K.A. -Y.S.I.N.G(eee)!!

I want a propellor on mine!

[Bob B.]

sticks said:

colinr said:

What's next Moon Man - Churchill Knew coventry was the target of an air raid , and made no effort to evacuate - because in doing so he would have tipped off the Germans to the fact we were able to read Enigma decripts ... Yes I know that piece of rubbish as well ....

They referenced that CT on an episode of Babylon 5, so what was the debunking of that one? If there is another thread for this let me know as we are straying off topic here which was about the Saturn 5 and Sibrels claims.

The Babylon 5 DVD series happens to include a commentary by creator J. Michael Straczynski on that particular episode. In the commentary Straczynski acknowledges that there is much controversy regarding just how much Churchill knew in advance of the Conventry bombing. Straczynski decided however to portray the Conventry story as true because it worked well in the context of the Babylon 5 story he was telling.