Some More Fascinating Video!

[spongebob]

Patrick showed me this video today that he found on YouTube

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro

I was a bit put out by the exuberance and triumphalism, but Patrick said that in the circumstances, such a wild outpouring of emotion was understandable.

[echnaton]

[HB}Notice haw Aldrin shifts uncomfortably in his chair and makes disturbed side glances as Armstrong speaks for the whole crew in the opening statement. Very telling![/HB]

[brotherofthemoon]

Well, it is listed as the Apollo 2 press conference. It's almost like those bozos were talking about Apollo 11 or something.

[bazbear]

And almost like they never had any serious media relations training! As if they actually picked people for their flight and engineering qualifications over their media savvy.

Come on HBers, you can't have it both ways!!!!!!

[spongebob]

echnaton said:

[HB}Notice haw Aldrin shifts uncomfortably in his chair and makes disturbed side glances as Armstrong speaks for the whole crew in the opening statement. Very telling![/HB]

Actually, now you mention it, all three of them seem to be displaying body language which, in other circumstances, would lead one to suspect that they were being dishonest or evasive.

[Tanalia]

spongebob said:

Actually, now you mention it, all three of them seem to be displaying body language which, in other circumstances, would lead one to suspect that they were being dishonest or evasive.

Or merely that they were uncomfortable giving presentations in front of an audience...

[Eddie Hitler]

Why is it that they should be comfortable in front of cameras? I am ex forces, as all of these men are, and there is in me an ingrained distrust of the media and public speaking. It is also well documented that Armstrong has always been uncomfortable speaking to the press. Admittedly, he will not generally reply to people like Kaysing who are trying to make him out to be the single biggest liar in History, but I suppose that is understandable. Having hundreds of cameras pointing at you does leave you feeling uncomfortable, unless you are a film star.

Worthless thread not worth reading!!!

[spongebob]

eddiehfromengland said:

Worthless thread not worth reading!!!

No-one twisted your arm up behind your back.

[Mr Gorsky]

This is another one that always falls into the "too ridiculous for words" category.

If you were setting out to produce the most elaborate hoax in human history (which is what Apollo would have to be), then surely one of the most important aspects would be to make sure that those taking part in front of the cameras were trained, and trained, and then trained some more, in dealing with public speaking and presenting to the media.

After all, they spent months undergoing intensive training for Apollo ... if they weren't going to the moon, then that time could be spent on the presentational aspects rather than the actual requirements for going to the moon.

Awkwardness in front of the media is far more an indicator of the fact that these guys are highly skilled and highly trained in being test pilots, with limited experience of with speaking in public fora, than that they are highly skilled and highly trained in pulling the wool over the whole world's eyes.

Get a grip.

[scooter]

It's pretty much the same issue that came up during the in-spacecraft TV show enroute the Moon (which BS calls his smoking gun). These were not chatty, talkative astronauts, except around their close friends, and the ground had to querie them to give some verbal commentary of their out of the window view.. Sure, the NASA PR types would like otherwise, but sometimes you just get what you get.
They were astronauts first and foremost.

[LunarOrbit]

After all, since there were only a handful of people capable of doing that job they would have had to overlook some of their less desirable qualities (like shyness). "I'm sorry, Mr. Armstrong. You're an excellent pilot, and the fact that you flew the X-15 makes you the perfect candidate to become an astronaut, but we need someone who is comfortable talking to the press. Sorry, we just can't hire you."

[HeadLikeARock (was postbaguk)]

tanalia said:

spongebob said:

Actually, now you mention it, all three of them seem to be displaying body language which, in other circumstances, would lead one to suspect that they were being dishonest or evasive.

Or merely that they were uncomfortable giving presentations in front of an audience...

The first time I saw this footage I genuinely felt for these guys that they were being put through an albeit necessary media circus: clearly they felt uncomfortable with that kind of attention.

Only a dyed-in-the-wool HBer could see this footage and claim they were obviously guilty, therefore must be lying, therefore the moon landings were hoaxed - and not even accept the possibilty that they were simply not comfortable public speakers.

I suppose if you've made your mind up that there's a conspiracy, you have to twist everything to fit that particular point of view, rather than looking for a more simple and logical explanation.

[PhantomWolf]

The funniest thing about it is that all of them and Armstrong especially never looked comfortable in the pre-flight and Gemini interviews either, but the HBs seem to ignore that.

[PhantomWolf]

They were astronauts first and foremost.

Actually they were Test pilots first and foremost.

[Kiwi]

mrgorsky said:

If you were setting out to produce the most elaborate hoax in human history (which is what Apollo would have to be), then surely one of the most important aspects would be to make sure that those taking part in front of the cameras were trained, and trained, and then trained some more, in dealing with public speaking and presenting to the media.

Yeah, Nasa should have trained Dean Martin, Jerry Lewis and Sammy Davis Junior to pull off the hoax. They could have been the astronauts and Frank Sinatra would have been admirably suited to being in charge of the Public Affairs Office, especially with Jayne Mansfield as his Chief Secretary.

That lot would have had much more clout than Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins.