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Jan 6, 2009 14:54:04 GMT -4
Post by lionking on Jan 6, 2009 14:54:04 GMT -4
As most of the victims are children and women, and as most of the world stands watching cowardly, even the arabs themselves, we can only hope and pray that this time the war ends with a root solution for this problem. We hope to see no more blood, at least that of the children, since it is a hopeless case to ask any of the big countries to pressure Israel against killing civillians.. it is a pity that this year started so aggressively, and I hope Lebanon will be set aside, because us too we can't withstand any war.
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Jan 6, 2009 14:57:48 GMT -4
Post by BertL on Jan 6, 2009 14:57:48 GMT -4
It's a sad situation. There's a photograph blog that posted a number of pictures that really did something with me. It's really sad, all in all.
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Gaza
Jan 6, 2009 15:26:19 GMT -4
Post by lionking on Jan 6, 2009 15:26:19 GMT -4
as always Israel overresponds and murders hundreds in revenge for few people.. this is not to defend Hamas, they are bunch of mindless people who did enough mistakes with their own people, but this cruelty that Israel is doing is unbelievable. Did these kids fire rockets? what would the world do if these were Israeli children? they would move all the media and the whole world..
as I said, I hope that a solution similar to Lebanon's solution will take place. I hope it ends as soon as possible because each day passes with tens of victims. This only brings support for Hamas in the Arab street. We are worried as Lebanese too, because anyone who fires rockets, even if it is not HA and it is some Palestinians, or possibly Mossad agents if Israel wants to create a war with Lebanon, any of those parties would settle Leabnon on fire. We had six rockets in the first days that were set towards Israel and luckily the Lebanese army and the Unifil discovered them and dismantled them. HA said it is not them who did it and considered this as an act against Lebanon. The investigations still didn't reach anywhere on who set them, and we still count on the army for the security of the borders.
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Jan 6, 2009 16:28:52 GMT -4
Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 6, 2009 16:28:52 GMT -4
Actually you may be surprised at the Western Media, they generally splash the images of injured Palestinians all over the TV with counts of the dead and injured, footage of the families crying out, and then at the very end perhaps tag on that Israel had been hit by 20+ rockets eariler in the day but don't bother showing any images of the people injured or killed by those, or even say if there were injuries.
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Gaza
Jan 6, 2009 16:51:56 GMT -4
Post by echnaton on Jan 6, 2009 16:51:56 GMT -4
as always Israel overresponds
At what is the proper response to a popularly elected, radical and militant government that sends dozens of missiles into is neighboring country everyday? A government that has at its core, the desire to destroy Israel and likely would try to if it had the ability.
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Jason
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Gaza
Jan 6, 2009 18:10:24 GMT -4
Post by Jason on Jan 6, 2009 18:10:24 GMT -4
Israel is protecting its civilians, which are actively targeted by Hamas. The IDF regularly contacts enemy noncombatants in advance to warn of approaching danger. Hamas deliberately places its weapons in and near the homes of its own people. As Charles Krauthammer said "For Hamas, the only thing more prized than dead Jews are dead Palestinians."
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Jan 7, 2009 5:51:46 GMT -4
Post by raven on Jan 7, 2009 5:51:46 GMT -4
Like so often in War, no side is right, no side is wrong. Woman and children have been killed, on both sides. I grieve for humanity, all humanity. This will have repercussions that will shake the young generation of Israelis and Palestinians becoming adults. This will create walls, not just physical ones, but walls in the heart and mind, walls against peace. Such a simple word, 'peace'. You would think such a special thing, so precious and rare, and so very, very, fragile, would have some grand sounding name, a name that reflects its infinite worth. I live in a land that has not had an armed conflict on it's soil since 1814. We were not even truely a country then, merely a colony of an island across the water. I know nothing of war, or it's heartach of a lost loved one, of the fear the becomes as familiar as on ones breath, of having a husband, a brother, an aunt, a grandmother, become a bag of bleeding flesh, from life to death, in the time between blinks. To hear the rumble of a distant explosion, or not hear one much closer. No, I have never experienced war.
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Gaza
Jan 7, 2009 8:55:35 GMT -4
Post by lionking on Jan 7, 2009 8:55:35 GMT -4
Actually you may be surprised at the Western Media, they generally splash the images of injured Palestinians all over the TV with counts of the dead and injured, footage of the families crying out, and then at the very end perhaps tag on that Israel had been hit by 20+ rockets eariler in the day but don't bother showing any images of the people injured or killed by those, or even say if there were injuries. I have seen photos of injured Israelis. Very mild and few cases. You would see a hole in the road but the hundreds beings killed are more important as casualties I think to be more highlighted.
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Gaza
Jan 7, 2009 8:57:30 GMT -4
Post by lionking on Jan 7, 2009 8:57:30 GMT -4
as always Israel overrespondsAt what is the proper response to a popularly elected, radical and militant government that sends dozens of missiles into is neighboring country everyday? A government that has at its core, the desire to destroy Israel and likely would try to if it had the ability. but it was not those children who fired those rockets, right? katiosha missiles being faced by the destruction and deprivation of rights of a whole strip is overresponding
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Gaza
Jan 7, 2009 8:59:44 GMT -4
Post by lionking on Jan 7, 2009 8:59:44 GMT -4
Israel is protecting its civilians, which are actively targeted by Hamas. The IDF regularly contacts enemy noncombatants in advance to warn of approaching danger. Hamas deliberately places its weapons in and near the homes of its own people. As Charles Krauthammer said "For Hamas, the only thing more prized than dead Jews are dead Palestinians." I remind you of the Human Rights Watch report about July 2006 war that said that there were no fighters were the civilians were and Israel bombed them. Israel wants to devastate the morals of the people in the war. I am not saying that this is true in all cases, but the civillians killed are just too much.
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Gaza
Jan 7, 2009 9:02:08 GMT -4
Post by lionking on Jan 7, 2009 9:02:08 GMT -4
Like so often in War, no side is right, no side is wrong. Woman and children have been killed, on both sides. I grieve for humanity, all humanity. This will have repercussions that will shake the young generation of Israelis and Palestinians becoming adults. This will create walls, not just physical ones, but walls in the heart and mind, walls against peace. Such a simple word, 'peace'. You would think such a special thing, so precious and rare, and so very, very, fragile, would have some grand sounding name, a name that reflects its infinite worth. I live in a land that has not had an armed conflict on it's soil since 1814. We were not even truely a country then, merely a colony of an island across the water. I know nothing of war, or it's heartach of a lost loved one, of the fear the becomes as familiar as on ones breath, of having a husband, a brother, an aunt, a grandmother, become a bag of bleeding flesh, from life to death, in the time between blinks. To hear the rumble of a distant explosion, or not hear one much closer. No, I have never experienced war. lucky you. The mere sound of the bombs in July war in Lebanon makes you feel you are next.
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Gaza
Jan 7, 2009 9:04:31 GMT -4
Post by lionking on Jan 7, 2009 9:04:31 GMT -4
The grievance? It cannot be occupation, military control or settlers. They were all removed in September 2005. There's only one grievance and Hamas is open about it. Israel's very existence.
No. there have been blockade on Gaza strip that caused many people to die because there are 150 basic medicines missing as well as other basic needs. That was the justification that Hamas used to fire rockets agaisnt Israel.
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Gaza
Jan 7, 2009 9:28:01 GMT -4
Post by lionking on Jan 7, 2009 9:28:01 GMT -4
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Jan 7, 2009 11:15:33 GMT -4
Post by echnaton on Jan 7, 2009 11:15:33 GMT -4
as always Israel overrespondsAt what is the proper response to a popularly elected, radical and militant government that sends dozens of missiles into is neighboring country everyday? A government that has at its core, the desire to destroy Israel and likely would try to if it had the ability. but it was not those children who fired those rockets, right? katiosha missiles being faced by the destruction and deprivation of rights of a whole strip is overresponding But it was their elders that voted Hamas into power so their elders share in the blame. I don't know what the proper response to persistent attacks on a country are. If someone was shooting missiles toward my home every day, I would want my government to take strong measures to stop the attack. Perhaps Hamas' supporters could tell us what is permissible? The sad part of this is that the Gaza Arabs are pawns of other peoples wars. As long as they allow themselves to be manipulated they will be in danger. I do not relish the death of anyone, much less children. And like almost everyone on the planet I would like the shooting to stop. But realistically, it will not as long as Hamas maintains its current stance. When the Gaza Arabs stand up for true independence, they will be free to seek peace.
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Gaza
Jan 7, 2009 13:09:15 GMT -4
Post by lionking on Jan 7, 2009 13:09:15 GMT -4
but it was not those children who fired those rockets, right? katiosha missiles being faced by the destruction and deprivation of rights of a whole strip is overresponding But it was their elders that voted Hamas into power so their elders share in the blame. I don't know what the proper response to persistent attacks on a country are. If someone was shooting missiles toward my home every day, I would want my government to take strong measures to stop the attack. Perhaps Hamas' supporters could tell us what is permissible? The sad part of this is that the Gaza Arabs are pawns of other peoples wars. As long as they allow themselves to be manipulated they will be in danger. I do not relish the death of anyone, much less children. And like almost everyone on the planet I would like the shooting to stop. But realistically, it will not as long as Hamas maintains its current stance. When the Gaza Arabs stand up for true independence, they will be free to seek peace. Gaza arabs are separated between Fatah and Hamas. Not all people are Hamas and not all people's elders are Hamas. The war would stop if both parties Hamas and Israel took measures to stop it. In the first place Israel doesn't need to provoke Hamas by putting the seige on the materials. Reports say that many Palestinain families are below the edge of poverty. Israel still makes their life harder and harder. Hamas on the other side should stop firing rockets. The Egyptians have set a solution scenario similar to the above mensioned. Let us hope it will work out.
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